When ARPANET (the proto-internet) was created, it was mainly made for communication during the aftermath of a nuclear attack, it was also made to easily obtain information. While it’s debatable how effective that’s been over the years, I don’t think it’s an unpopular opinion to say that finding information on the internet has gotten so much worse.

Example 1: Type in any question on to google. Chances are, the first article you are going to get is a garbage article that starts off by telling you what you already know with a recap, but then afterwards padding everything out with fluff and just barely scratching the surface of the topic. That article was not made to help you, it was made to get revenue for some person.

Example 1a: You are hungry and looking for a recipe. The author really feels the need to waste your time by telling you about their life and you scroll with despair (and hunger) just looking for the ingredients.

Example 2: You look for a hobbyist forum on the internet. Since reddit has swallowed a good chunk of forums, chances are, your only hobbyist community is only on reddit. Let’s use the Sega Dreamcast as an example, though it has many good surviving forums elsewhere. When you go to the Sega Dreamcast subreddit, instead of posts about dreamcast hacking, homebrew, new releases, its games, a good majority of the posts are: “Look guys! I bought a Sega Dreamcast!”. Reddit intentionally and unintentionally by design is built to promote posts like these over others. I cannot tell you how much I loathe reddit’s upvote system.

What I’m trying to say with all this is that when finding information on the internet, you are best getting very small factoids about things. Learning about larger topics is much harder, and you often run into articles that just barely explain what you want to know. When you you go to hobbyist forums, a good chunk of the time you might get some useful facts here and there, but you are often surrounded by people who don’t fully understand the topic either, and posts are usually filled with beginner questions.

It’s really weird that despite the internet being made for information, the best way to use it to get that information is to download books off of it. Somehow, someway, in the year 2023, the best way to gain information is by book, and books are often paywalled. Some of the best information you can find outside of a book on the internet is also paywalled. Wiki’s are decent for getting information, yet a good chunk of the time they still don’t fully cover a topic.

There has to be a way that we can make wiki’s that are super indepth and will answer most questions people have about a topic.

Or maybe not even wikis: In some cases I wonder if it’s best to confine information to just text, that can more easily fit into hard disk space and be read on any device, old or new.

What do you all think about this?

  • Rozaŭtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    Sometimes I wonder whether the internet as we know it is eventually gonna collapse on itself or if it’s just gonna keep getting worse and only a handful of people will take refuge in the gophersphere or some place separated from the regular web.

    What I’m trying to say with all this is that when finding information on the internet, you are best getting very small factoids about things.

    The thing that worries me the most is that this might be a big contributor to the spread of misinformation. Every week there’s a new discourse and most people are receiving only enough factoids to put them in the sweet spot for the Dunning-Kruger effect, making them think that they’re on par with literal experts.

    Somehow, someway, in the year 2023, the best way to gain information is by book, and books are often paywalled.

    With the exception of Open Library, which publishers are trying to sue into closing down. 🤦

    Or maybe not even wikis: In some cases I wonder if it’s best to confine information to just text, that can more easily fit into hard disk space and be read on any device, old or new.

    Look into the Gemini protocol, it’s designed with exactly this idea in mind. Someone even made a wikipedia front-end for it.

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      1 year ago

      Extra points for mentioning Gopher, my favorite Minnesota-flavored information sharing protocol.