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The system is the root cause of the climate crisis.
We are not going to solve the crisis by clinging to a system that breeds consumerism, generates shit load of waste and fantasizes infinite growth.
As I said, changing how you behave is much less important than changing the system, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it
I don’t disagree, but you’re missing the point.our behavior is less important becuause it’s tied to the behavior of the system, truly sustainable solutions doesn’t exist under the current system. it’s in the interest of the system to make everything unsustainable, we don’t have any meaningful power to make a choice in our behavior that will hurt the system.whatever illusion of choice you have is a privilege that many of us don’t have.
This video will articulate this point better than me, it’s focused on veganism but you can translate the core concepts to generally any consumer based activism.
While I agree with the sentiment of the video, it’s not like she actually presents a better system at all.
Everything she describes is present in every system in the world, except for a few pockets that live by more ancient traditions and would not scale to 7 billions. It’s just that humans are imperfect, self-centered and that any society with this many of us is going to have some ugly parts. Communist (or socialist) countries don’t actually reduce their emissions faster than some capitalists ones. They pollute less for the simple reason that they’re poorer.
I also disagree with the argument of growth. Yeah the world is finite but we are very far from actually using even a tiny fraction of all the available resources. We can have growth for a while (better knowledge, comfort, healthcare) before we actually use up the resources of the earth.
We do need to improve the system, but it’s not going to happen overnight and suddenly become some for of utopia. It’s going to be progressive and there are going to be some steps back. If you want it to happen faster, you need to show people that better options are out there. Complaining about “the system” while doing nothing doesn’t help.
You’re denying that any progress is impossible. That’s simply not true.
humans are imperfect, self-centered and that any society with this many of us is going to have some ugly parts.
Capitalist realism is one hell of a drug🤣
They pollute less for the simple reason that they’re poorer.
They pollute less for the simple reason that their economic model isn’t based on infinite growth.
They pollute less because their superior economic model generates less waste.
They pollute less because they will work for the betterment of the planet even if there is no profits to be earned from it
I also disagree with the argument of growth. Yeah the world is finite but we are very far from actually using even a tiny fraction of all the available resources. We can have growth for a while (better knowledge, comfort, healthcare) before we actually use up the resources of the earth.
😂 sure we should squeeze out everything out of nature, climate change will wait, do you even understand the scale of the crisis we are in? do you seriously think we can just keep exploiting the resources and don’t face it’s consequences?
but it’s not going to happen overnight and suddenly become some for of utopia. It’s going to be progressive and there are going to be some steps back.
When did I say any of this? I thought it was pretty clear that I’m not advocating for Utopian socialism.
If you want it to happen faster, you need to show people that better options are out there. Complaining about “the system” while doing nothing doesn’t help.
Doing Nothing? There must be a misunderstanding. or do you seriously think that not participating in a bourgeois election equates to nothing?
You’re denying that any progress is impossible. That’s simply not true.
The only meaningful progress is the progress from capitalism to socialism.
OK let me try to make this clear:
The system is the root cause of the climate crisis.
We are not going to solve the crisis by clinging to a system that breeds consumerism, generates shit load of waste and fantasizes infinite growth.
I don’t disagree, but you’re missing the point.our behavior is less important becuause it’s tied to the behavior of the system, truly sustainable solutions doesn’t exist under the current system. it’s in the interest of the system to make everything unsustainable, we don’t have any meaningful power to make a choice in our behavior that will hurt the system.whatever illusion of choice you have is a privilege that many of us don’t have.
This video will articulate this point better than me, it’s focused on veganism but you can translate the core concepts to generally any consumer based activism.
While I agree with the sentiment of the video, it’s not like she actually presents a better system at all.
Everything she describes is present in every system in the world, except for a few pockets that live by more ancient traditions and would not scale to 7 billions. It’s just that humans are imperfect, self-centered and that any society with this many of us is going to have some ugly parts. Communist (or socialist) countries don’t actually reduce their emissions faster than some capitalists ones. They pollute less for the simple reason that they’re poorer.
I also disagree with the argument of growth. Yeah the world is finite but we are very far from actually using even a tiny fraction of all the available resources. We can have growth for a while (better knowledge, comfort, healthcare) before we actually use up the resources of the earth.
We do need to improve the system, but it’s not going to happen overnight and suddenly become some for of utopia. It’s going to be progressive and there are going to be some steps back. If you want it to happen faster, you need to show people that better options are out there. Complaining about “the system” while doing nothing doesn’t help.
You’re denying that any progress is impossible. That’s simply not true.
Capitalist realism is one hell of a drug🤣
They pollute less for the simple reason that their economic model isn’t based on infinite growth.
They pollute less because their superior economic model generates less waste.
They pollute less because they will work for the betterment of the planet even if there is no profits to be earned from it
😂 sure we should squeeze out everything out of nature, climate change will wait, do you even understand the scale of the crisis we are in? do you seriously think we can just keep exploiting the resources and don’t face it’s consequences?
When did I say any of this? I thought it was pretty clear that I’m not advocating for Utopian socialism.
Doing Nothing? There must be a misunderstanding. or do you seriously think that not participating in a bourgeois election equates to nothing?
The only meaningful progress is the progress from capitalism to socialism.