yall had your chance. fucked around and found out.
I still support the protests but, jesus christ, this fucking mess is only just beginning.
Remember if you’re going to any protests. Don’t bring your phone and wear a mask. Use a map if you’re not familiar with the area, write any important numbers you might need to call from a cell on your arm. Let friends know where you’re going and don’t go alone if you can.
Why no phone? Also is it still that bad with CoVid, that even outside a mask is necessary?
It’s about anonymity. You can be tracked through your phone, and of course, by your face.
I guess I’m spoiled by my (yet working) european liberal democracy. No idea it got that bad that you need to worry about such things…
If things are bad enough to be worth a protest then it’s probably always best to be at least a bit cautious, and your phone is one of the worst possible things you could have on you.
you should always worry about it operationally. even in europe.
Because they are protesting someone who wants to make protesting illegal. Better to protest now without a phone and a mask, so you don’t get shot in the legg when he gets in power in January
I think it’s more to avoid facial recognition
And searches for “can I change my vote” and “what is a tariff” have spiked
Everyone has been warning against Trump (including his own ex staff and lawyers).
Big thanks to the donkeys though who promoted Trump and tried to pretend Kamala is the same.
I doubt there is a single economist that believes in Trump
Get ready because next year they going make protesting illegal, and Trump already signal his willingness to send troops to said protest. I suspect we will have protest and soldiers shooting said protesters. People under estimate how many mega have joined the army.
If making protesting illegal is enough to get you to stop protesting: You’re not really upset enough to have protested in the first place for anything but taking pictures of it for social media points.
And it’s not like protesters haven’t been getting shot or beaten up by police even while it’s legal.
That’s why I would advise against directly confrontation means of protest. Instead look at things like malicious compliance, boycotts, 4B / birthstrike, anticonsumption, and other acts of non-participation. Labor strikes will probably be common, but those can be rather risky.
Governments know how to deal in violence. Don’t give them a target to aim at.
Yep. They knew what would happen because we’ve been telling them for months what would happen. Trump himself has been telling them for months what would happen. But they’re too smart. They always seem to know more than those they disagree with.
And now, because of a single issue that’s happing in a country where most of them couldn’t have located on a map a year ago- we’re now having to deal with the worst possible outcome.
And here’s the kicker-
What’s happening at that place that they could locate on a map a year ago that upset them so much will not be happening for too much longer…
and it won’t be ending in a way they’d have hoped it would.
But just wait… it’ll be everyone else’s fault.
The sad part is that everything bad he says is apparently “him joking”. Like the Mafia, he knows exactly what he’s doing as well when it comes to coercion. He doesn’t threaten people, he just says it would be a pity if it happened
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The new narrative is “I have no culpability whatsoever when it comes to Trump winning just because I kept repeating that no one should vote for Harris. It’s entirely her fault for running a bad campaign.”
They refuse to share blame. I hope they feel just as self-righteous when they’re getting marched into that boxcar.
Please show me a single example of somepne saying that Harris was the same as trump.
Take a stroll through hexbear and .Ml
monkey paw curls
The two party system is over
americans are awful at protesting. they show up, cant figure out where to park, have no organizations, have lame chants (e.g. hey hey, ho ho, donald trump has go to go), present the same meaningless meme protest posters, leave tons of trash behind, and it last a few hours. Nothing is sustained for multiple days or weeks, and the solidarity is with people who already were with you.
So accurate. Attention span issues.
H A S T O G O
Donald Trump has got to go!
They should ship in French people. They are first class protestors.
March and rally to protest Trump and the two-party war machine
Mass protests against the two-party system. Perhaps we can get some actual representation next election.
There isn’t going to be another election, not a real one anyway. It’s game over.
For starters, his first speech on 1A basically says he’s prosecuting anyone who dares to enforce the Hatch Act.
And he’ll probably put into effect the insurrection act.
Civil disorder feels like a broad term. You could probably label occupy wallstreet or the women’s March of 2016 as such.
Funny. Assuming there actually is a next time.
Imagine being stupid enough to protest democracy, assist a wannabe dictator become the next US president, and still bitching about a two party system system. Because of ignorance and stupidity there will only be single party going forward in America.
Fascism like the world has never seen.
This shit is so self-defeating, anti-progressive and only inflicts damage on the truly innocent people
But hey principles ami right?
Hey Bud. You okay?
This reads like you’re feeling defeated. It’s okay to have hope that the world can get better, even if it feels like the dark days.
You anthropomorphizing complex socio-polotical effects of a rotting economic system. Just thought you ought to know.
If it’s any consolation, at least Trump can only ever become a short term dictator, because he’s old.
I doubt even the MAGAs would support Vance or any other republican trying to maintain a dictatorship. The entire GOP will crumble in infighting when Trump is gone and probably even beforehand.
This is the kind of clownish thinking that got us in this position in the first place. Stop underestimating the orange idiot.
Or his cadre of evil clowns.
They can come out to protest but not to vote?
There are 161 million people registered to vote. Out of 147 million that did vote, 3 million more voted for Trump. Do not shame the actual voters, we did our part.
Dudes getting rid of the department of education so garbage human beings can isolate their children in homeschooling. More than protests are required. Real tangible steps needed to be taken prior to the election to enshrine basic rights and quality of standard for the US citizens. Democrats refused because everyone knows they have 1 or 2 senators or congressional rep that would make sure their minor majority was canceled out. This was intentional by democrat leadership(pelosi). The US voters refused to remove both democrats and republicans end masse because both of them wanted their party to have the power. Welcome to the Divided States of america. Have you had your joy today?
En masse*
This was one of the main reasons why I was looking forward to Harris winning … so that everyone in the world could just stop talking about dumb American politics for a while
Now it looks like it’s all we’ll ever talk about at the expense of talking about every other important thing in the world … such as our long term survival as a species on this planet.
Long-term fate was sealed with this election.
Short-term profit year over year for the shareholders always wins.
Funny that Musk supports “long-termism” and yet helped get Trump into office. A real face-eating leopards moment.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species. He’s likely to push anti-pollution deregulation, prioritize fossil fuels, refuse to uphold international agreements on climate change policy, etc. That’s on top of the damage he will do to international trade, charitable efforts, world health, immigration, and war. He is far from the only problem in all of those areas, but unfortunately he’s likely to be involved with just about all of it, and improve none of it. As an American, I’m so so sorry.
Don’t worry, nothing will be done to stop him (till he’s in a bunker if you catch my drift.)
“Drill baby drill, frack baby frack”.
Trumps literal words at a rally leading up to the election. And people cheered.
This should tell you all you need to know. If you recycle, if you carpool, if you use public transportation. If you have a compost pile. If you refuse to buy plastic water bottles, and styrofoam plates. If you do everything you can to reduse, reuse, and recycle, fuck you. Your efforts are in vein. All of it is being undone on a global industrial scale. Purposefully. With tax breaks for the oil tycoons who pollute the most.
This is what we’re in for.
To be fair I explicitly remember Harris saying she heavily supported tracking in the debate. I think the US local pollution will increase much faster than the global pollution.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species.
You actually missed the biggest thing of all. Trump’s new world disorder is going to create an explosion of nuclear proliferation. In the new environment, countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear umbrella as they have for the past 70 years. Every country will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. And the shear amount of new countries that are going to have their own nuclear weapons is going to guarantee a disaster sooner or later.
Good, maybe it’ll end quickly then, rather than this long, drawn out, slow cooking…
Heck they even were saying they want to nuke Mars. Oh wait, I mean lie about their reason for putting nukes in space
Cartels will have nukes shortly after smaller countries with weak or bribable security forces have them.
I hope you’re wrong, this is fucking terrifying.
That ball started rolling in 2014 when we did fucking NOTHING in response to Russia annexing Crimea. Seriously, I consider that one moment to be Obama’s most catastrophic foreign policy failure.
And this is now why Ukraine has openly said they’re considering a crash nuclear weapons program - which they can do, because they had a lot of former Soviet personnel that operated and maintained Soviet nukes back in the day, and a lot of very fucking motivated and intelligent citizens who would absolutely love it if they could make Russia fuck off from their territory for good.
Nukes are the absolute final word in maintaining sovereignty and territorial integrity. Ukraine would not be getting invaded now if they still had a few warheads stashed in a bunker being quietly maintained. But they signed the Budapest Memorandum, and gave them up in exchange for “security guarantees and assurances” which were ultimately thrown on the floor. Nobody will EVER make that deal again.
TL;DR: Nuclear proliferation is back with a vengeance, baby!
We’re gonna fucking blow ourselves off the face of the earth, all because a few dudes just couldn’t stop trying to obtain power. How disgusting.
As the POTUS, Trump gets to set the bar on the world stage for international cooperation in many parts of life.
Other leaders, world-wide, will follow his lead, either because they can finally get away with it, or in reaction to how he treats their nation.
We saw this to a small degree with Trump 1.0 when nobody expected him to win. Now the entire world has had 8 years to figure out what they are going to do.
Sadly, a few protests now is nothing in comparison if Harris would have won. The Republican party already had preemptive lawsuits to challenge the election results before election day and the results would have been contended for months. There was a high likelihood of a repeat of Jan. 6th 2021 on Jan. 6th 2025 from right wing milita groups.
Americans would rather bully the entire world than participate in it apparently. We’re stuck with this now. The Republican party is back from the dead.
Minority of americans are against Trump. I’ve lost all hope for average americans intelligence.
couldve been louder a couple months ago
“Hate never made America great” ? What the fuck are you even talking about? Your hate of commies launched you to the moon and made you a nuclear superpower. Your hate of the religious freedom in Europe caused you to invade another continent and cause genocide upon its inhabitants. Your hate of black people sparked a civil war that almost destroyed you as a country.
Hate is what defines you. As a reminder of the hate you perpetuate, your majority chose hate of women and minorities instead of throwing a known criminal in jail. Trump is the US. Hate is the US.
Our hate of fascism led us to put Hitler in a corner so dark he took his own life because the commies we hated so much would’ve done so much worse to him like Mussolini. I think you have misrepresented our hatred of commies, since this is just one part of our history; we work with the commies whenever it’s convenient and then when it’s peaceful we make a pissing contest for the sake of flexing on one another like petty stepbrothers. Hate is a big part of our history, yes, but it’s ignorant to think of this as the whole face of America.
And before anyone says “America joined WWII late,” I want to say that’s a lie by omission most of the time. It’s true that America put troops on the ground only after Pearl Harbor…but the US government was already sending supplies to the allies before that; for the entire duration of the war, the US had an anti-Nazi government. Hypocritically so due to the US policies against black people, but some people phrase it in a way that makes it sound like they want us to believe the US was close to joining the Axis before Pearl Harbor (also bringing up the MSG rally, which…you could find a comparable amount of Nazis in any Western country at the time.) Anti-interventionism was the absolute norm in the US at the time.
Now, it is incorrect that US History class casts Americans as the primary heroes of WWII.
instead of throwing a known criminal in jail.
All they had to do is throw in jail is correct. But no, they kept him around and used him as the “orange boogyman” so they can campaign without campaign promises.
As an Italian who lived through three different Berlusconi’s governments… there is no way back. Identity politics is too yummy for lobbies and the other people who fund politicians.
What should someone even do to respond to a viewpoint like this?
I mean, some support of reform in your congress and senate would be a good answer. Allowance from people outside the two anointed parties to come forward and propose good ideas even if they don’t affiliate themselves with the oligarchs running things in the republican and democratic parties - fix that First Past The Post bullshit, you all know it’s bad for you. Reform of how you count votes, gerrymandering is literally destroying your elections. Reform of how many representatives there are for each state - you’re telling me even though California has 17 million more people than Florida, they have the same number of senators? Or maybe it’d be nice if your cops wouldn’t be above the law and always getting away with murdering minorities, that would help. Or maybe reform of your education and healthcare systems, which feed all your money in the pockets of the same fucks who then force you into labor for the “luxury” of taking an ambulance to the hospital when you’re sick, or earning a higher education. Reform of your for-profit prison system that jails minorities to further increase your class divide. Or reform of your diplomatic relations with countries known for genocide. Reform of so many different things… But I think most of all, it would really have sent a message if instead of making him president, you’d have just jailed the convicted felon that has ties to one of your biggest enemies. Cause otherwise you’re just painting the picture that corruption has overtaken you.
And hey, it’s not you as a person that is responsible for any of this. But this is how it looks like from the outside. Your majority has decided you’re gonna be corrupt fucks for the next few years and that you as a nation are gonna exchange the lives of women for a red hat and a fake tan. If that’s what the majority decides, that’s the impression your country will leave. I’m truly sorry about it for the many actually reasonable people that are left. Perhaps now is a good time to consider emigration.
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Enemies of democracy.
The protesters?
The commenter forgot Republicans were saying they would rather be Russian than Democrats. The commenter also forgot that Russia doesn’t run on a democratic system.
