Alsephina@lemmy.ml to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.mlEnglish · 15 days agoBernie Would Have Wonwww.dropsitenews.comexternal-linkmessage-square124fedilinkarrow-up1407arrow-down153
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minus-squaremranachi@aussie.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down5·15 days agoIt’s not a failure, he made a choice. In hindsight we see it as the wrong choice, but we don’t know what the alternative is. We will never know if it was right or wrong, failure or success. Nothing is ever so simple.
minus-squareCowbee [he/him]@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down1·15 days agoIt’s a failure unless his goal was for his movement to fizzle out and flounder.
minus-squaremranachi@aussie.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·14 days agoDidn’t be obtuse. To fix your logic “It would be a failure if his goal was to keep his movement alive at any cost”. That clearly wasn’t his goal. Or have I missed the point entirely, and this is not a discussion but some point scoring thing based on digestible one liners.
minus-squareCowbee [he/him]@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up5·14 days agoBernie didn’t keep his movement alive nor did the Democrats win in 2024. Something clearly was wrong with what he was trying to do.
It’s not a failure, he made a choice. In hindsight we see it as the wrong choice, but we don’t know what the alternative is. We will never know if it was right or wrong, failure or success.
Nothing is ever so simple.
It’s a failure unless his goal was for his movement to fizzle out and flounder.
Didn’t be obtuse.
To fix your logic “It would be a failure if his goal was to keep his movement alive at any cost”. That clearly wasn’t his goal.
Or have I missed the point entirely, and this is not a discussion but some point scoring thing based on digestible one liners.
Bernie didn’t keep his movement alive nor did the Democrats win in 2024. Something clearly was wrong with what he was trying to do.