The predominantly ludicrous lawmaker from Georgia did Biden a solid this weekend, telling Republicans the Democratic president is fiendishly attempting to make people’s lives better.

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    If the Left had a clue about marketing, they would be producing some patriotic video showing the successes of FDR and LBJ and then tying that imagery to Biden. Americans winning against Nazis, New Deal, waving American flags, etc. Have the whole video being narrated by MTG’s own words. Using the enemy’s own attacks against them.

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      If by “left” you mean democrats then they will not do this because it is not what their views are. They are ideologically as neoliberal as Reagan and Thatcher. This is part of why they don’t do as good of a job opposing the far right as they could, because they only exist as long as their only opposition is unhinged far right politicians.

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        And I would say that’s fairly representative of the views most voters have. The left needs to win the argument with voters before they can complain about the politicians.

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          I mean the opinions of the voting public are nearly always more complex than either Republican or Democratic party dogma. The problem is that there is no substantial way of politically engaging besides voting. I would argue actually that generally the public is way more left wing than it is given credit for, but a lot of people have no accessible ways to transform these ideas into action. And for this I don’t have an easy answer. Disclaimer, am a leftist so I would obviously think this, but I do still think that we would see more diverse political ideas if our political systems were made to be more open.

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        I fuckin wish the Dems were reliably neoliberal, in the vein of Clinton(s).

        Neoliberalism is dope as fuck. Free trade and open borders let’s gooooo

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            End occupational licensing, end single family zoning, cut corporate taxes, encourage freer trade and common markets. Raise taxes on non-poor people to pay for social programs. These are core neoliberal tenets.

            Why do you want to make being poor even harder? These are evidenced-based methods of helping poor people.

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              I find the “raise taxes to pay for social programs” and “cut corporate taxes” to be somewhat contradictory. Reagan and Thatcher were textbook neoliberals if you need any examples, and they destroyed social programs and labor unions rather than supporting them.

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                In the 80s people also smoked indoors everywhere. Lots of dumb shit happened in the 80s. Then, over 40 years, people got smarter.

                Individual taxes need to go up. Corporate taxes do not

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                  I fail to see why you think helping corporations earning money will help individuals, especially with raising taxes on them. Corporations’ interests are lower wages and higher prices, worker’s interests are higher wages and lower prices. The only way to then increase wages is to force companies to do so, either through job disloyalty, strikes, regulations, or etc. Don’t see how lower taxes will make them pay more.

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                    Lmao yeah you’re right, something 75% and 90% of Congress voted for, respectively, is the fault of… Neoliberals.

                    As are hurricanes and earthquakes.

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            Imagine supporting an ideology that has been nothing but demonstrably harmful to most people except for a tiny handful.

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              They not only are against student loan forgiveness they also support Tony Blair. Yes that one, the war criminal who helped hand over prisoners to be waterboarded.

              Don’t believe me? Go visit any of the websites that they infest.

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            While I am by no means a Clinton fan, a huge part of the student loan hellscape is less Clinton active malice/stupidity and more Gingrich and company leverage - AKA the usual right-wing obstructionist bullshit that people gave them the numbers to force through. It wasn’t helped by Clinton’s need to cave due to getting sloppy toppies in the Oval Office and the huge stink Newt and Starr raised to get their way…or the Perot school of ‘fuck you I got mine’ Libertarians who apparently needed placating to keep the Dems in office.

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              Yes because they held a gun to his head and ordered him to not veto it.

              Neoliberals don’t like student loan forgiveness, they like Clinton who made it very hard to get it forgiven.

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                No gun is required when so-called self-interests are threatened. He shouldn’t have caved, but then he also shouldn’t have given credence to the welfare and social safety net talking points from the Reich wing. And the CBC damned well shouldn’t have gone along with bullshit ‘tough on crime’ narratives.

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                  He didn’t veto it and no one forced him. There really is nothing else to say. The neoliberals knew full well the disaster that would follow but not only ignored it they also actively encouraged it.

                  Anyone with brains could see that if tuition is rising faster than income and you make student loans inescapable you would end up with mountains of debt. The only two options I can see

                  1. They couldn’t see the obvious in which case they should have zero power.

                  2. They knew this would happen and wanted it.

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            Student loan debt balooning is caused by too easy access to loans coupled with too little state funding

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                I support forgiveness for student loans based roughly on income level, sure. I don’t think we should be subsidizing wealthy kids more than we already do.

                It should go, basically in order:

                • college dropouts
                • government employees (teachers, social workers etc)
                • others with similar income level and undergrad degrees

                Then finally, mostly unforgiven

                • post-grad degrees
                • wealthy families

                I’m very much in favor of progressive tax and social benefits.

                I’m sorry, are you under the opinion that Democrats don’t push for student loan forgiveness? Biden literally took it to the Supreme Court lmao.

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        I can only assume that is what Hunter has in spades, or else Republicans wouldn’t have been making it into such a big deal.