Saw a post without noticing the community and commented a genuine comment with good intentions.

Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

Original post:

My (removed) comment:

And yeah, the last comment was sarcasm.

I just don’t really understand why is there a community for shitting on Linux? Like I can get not liking it, and hating the Linux die hard fans, but it really is an amazing thing that is integral to almost all modern computing… Kind of like hating social media by having a facebook page for it.

  • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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    There was a time when there was an annual “Linux Sucks” presentation that I liked because it was a roundup of candid, yet constructive criticism of Linux (and then at some point the person running that went off the deep end and started yelling about woke agendas).

    I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken when running linux, and we as a community then try to fix them or find workarounds.

    But as others have pointed out, that community isn’t a community, it’s literally just one account hanging out by themselves.

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      I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken

      But isn’t that every linux forum?

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        Yeah, but I think it can feel too much like a circle jerk around here sometimes. I get that people want to win over new users, but some of it goes too far I think. The fact is Linux isn’t perfect, and while no OS is, there are some critical things you can do on Windows that are still a pain in the ass on Linux. Some of that is a vendor/proprietary software problem, but a good chunk of it is just people being willing to overlook a thin layer of jank in their normal workflows.

        I think we’d all be better off to all acknowledge and clean up the jank rather than try to pretend it’s fine as is.

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          To be fair, Windows has its own jank. As someone who is forced to use Windows 11 for work, I’m much happier putting up with the minimum Linux jank I’ve experienced compared to the Windows jank.

          If any of that made sense.

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      There is a guy that is a Linux dev, that maintains* a list of what sucks about linux, its very comprehensive–but a bit dated. He alao has same for Windows. I will have to look for the link

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    people who are new should be using immutable distros exclusively unless they’re looking at this as a major project where they learn everything about it, IMHO

    i’ve been helping people switch for a long time, all the dumbest things that have happened to people have been stopped by immutability.

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      I just switched from Windows to Linux recently. Have gone from Zorin to Linux Mint and my friend likes Ubuntu. I would like to think that I watched a lot of videos and read a lot of articles before switching, but I’ve never heard of immutable distros. Could you please explain that term?

      Edit: Grammar.

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        Yes, the short version is that immutability means that the filesystem (except for your home folder) is read-only and updated all at once.

        This makes it so that updates never break the machine, and you can roll back to previous versions of the machine all at once, seamlessly.

        For new people I always recommend fedora kinoite, but if you’re highly experienced, immutability provides little value as you can always just chroot and unbreak the system yourself.

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    I don’t understand why so many people take the existence of linuxsucks communities so personally, the reddit version has more linux users defending it than actual hate, but that one was more meant as a “legitimate grievances against linux” community as opposed to what the lemmy version seems to be.

    Just block and ignore like anything else. Its okay if there are people that don’t like the thing you like.

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    Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

    Sounds like they’ve done you a favour. Now you don’t have to see their random hater circlejerk community again.

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    When I was on reddit the ones spouting the most linux hate seemed to fall into two main categories.

    1. those that tried it like 15 years ago and still hold a grudge.

    2. dudes who heard people rave about linux but they themselves struggled with certain concepts when trying it out. And rather than realize they need to read instructions and learn new things, instead would rather blame linux for not working as expected.

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    So: you posted a serious contribution in an unserious community, and got treated unseriously. It’s not very newsworthy.

    As for that community’s existence, why is that even up for discussion? As a Linux user I’m happy for people to say what they like about Linux. If the jokes are funny, all the better.

    I use Ubuntu btw and it doesn’t suck. Well, not that much.

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      I don’t think it’s a joke community, it seems to just be about hating Linux and not allowing any Linux positivity or praise

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        And so what? Why are you so bothered by it? I’m a Linux user of 20 years and I couldn’t give a fig that someone is running a forum called LinuxSucks which, unsurprisingly, contains little “positivity or praise” for Linux.

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          I mean… This is a site for posting things, and I posted a thing. Trust me, this isn’t the highlight of my day or something that deeply bothers me

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                Even so, why post this and not any one of countless other things?

                Like I feel that you’re missing a clear sign here. Most people would roll their eyes and move on. This is quite possibly the most “leopards ate my face” post in this community and yet it’s being upvoted because “hooray tribalism” over something as asinine as OS (really kernel) choice.

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                  Because they found it interesting and wanted to discuss it with people?

                  Just because it’s low priority doesn’t mean it lacks any interest, we can exist between extremes

                  Most people would roll their eyes and move on

                  Quite famously 1% of the community are posters, after all. Who the fuck cares what a normal person would post? OP wanted to

                  and yet it’s being upvoted because “hooray tribalism” over something as asinine as OS (really kernel) choice.

                  Lol, it’s being upvoted because most of us recognize the sub and it’s pathetic mod and are laughing at being reminded of them, if the comments are anything to go by

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    Nope, I just checked. Apparently, you can’t say anything good about Linux. Seems like a useless waste of time but, whatever. If I got banned from that site I would consider it a blessing.

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    I’m not sure if it’s related but there was an annual symposium called “Linux Sucks”. It was a gathering of mostly Linux developers. The idea was to find the ways Linux sucks and develop ideas to fix the suck.

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    You should also take into account the animosity against lemmy.ml in general from some instances and communities. Something to do with the moderation here or something else.

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    It’s not a “community”, it’s one person making all the posts because I guess they wanted to make hating Linux their entire personality. 🤷

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        I’d argue dedicating your personality to hating something is much weirder than being a fanboy of it, especially when that thing is a piece of technology nobody is forcing you to use.

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        I don’t see irony there. I think calling this FOSS community ‘filled with Linux-crazed people’ is a stretch, but even then, it’s very different to:

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        or even just hating a niche product whatsoever. It’s not like Linux is EEE’ing or being invasive, so it’s hard to equivocate being a passionate fan to being a passionate hater.

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    That whole community is just one guy posting memes. Some are funny but mostly its just odd how much he hates Linux.

    Whatever :)