• Shizrak@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    In the simplest possible terms: people do not come back from the dead. That is an impossible thing.

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        2 months ago

        Logic and reason from billions of people’s shared experiences on the earth.

        Feel free to die and return and prove me wrong.

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          2 months ago

          So, you’re saying Jesus didn’t rise from the dead because it’s impossible. And that we know it’s impossible because nobody’s risen from the dead, which should include Jesus because you reject that he rose from the dead because it’s impossible.

          Isn’t this circular reasoning?

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            2 months ago

            Sure. Whenever discussing religion one will fall into circular reasoning, because faith itself is circular reasoning. One cannot use logic or reason to get out of a position that logic and reason did not get them into.

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                  2 months ago

                  Then our belief in anything can be put to circular reasoning

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                    2 months ago

                    Not exactly. Some things can be proven. But regarding things that happened thousands of years ago? Yeah that’s just everyone’s best guess and personal beliefs.

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                2 months ago

                And forgive me for my use of “impossible” earlier, that’s not my position.

                “Highly improbable” is a way better qualifier.

                Not going to edit it because it ruins the context.

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                  2 months ago

                  Well, it is highly improbable, because only a few people have, either by this aforementioned person or himself. And it requires supernatural powers.

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                    2 months ago

                    Right, and it’s much more likely that some true stories about a great dude got exaggerated a little bit over 2000 years, and vanishingly less likely that magic is real.

                    But both are absolutely possible.