• adderaline@beehaw.org
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    yeah, such a liberal. haha. i’m a queer anarchist. if i thought there was a chance in fucking hell a socialist would get into office i’d take it. i just don’t put ideological purity over human lives. electoral politics is fucked, but your cute little third party vote is designed to mean fuck all, and we both know that. i’m gonna stomach my distaste for the dickhead and spend an hour of my time doing the most basic form of political engagement possible, to prevent the real deal fascist bigot party from getting more power over us, then i’m going to get back to more productive things. fuck you if you can’t discern the difference between the people legislating people like me out of existence, and the people who aren’t. people will live or die based on the outcome of these elections, its not time to play pretend about socialists in US electoral politics.

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      You are helping to ensure a socialist won’t get into office. A self-fulfilling prophecy. Liberal in action; anarchist in word. You came out of the gate trying to shame people who actually vote for their principles. That’s not solidarity with anyone fighting for liberation, sorry.

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          so please, for fucks sake, don’t do the thing that helps the bigots but sticks to your principles, please. i am very frightened, and do not want to die or be left without healthcare. i’m not trying to shame you, i’m telling you that if enough people do the thing that you are planning to do this next election, the most likely outcome is very much not a socialist getting to be the president. please, i will beg on my knees, don’t do a very dumb thing that won’t get you what you want.

          Nothing you do at the ballot box will prevent a fascist from being elected to office, either. You’re willing to beg for someone to put a check mark on the paper to help affirm their shitty status quo political system and their shitty fascist political brands. None of that is going to change your material conditions. Have some dignity, and if you really aspire to be an anarchist, study the actual systems you’re so worried about and figure this shit out. If you’re going to beg a leftist for something, make it something that’ll make a difference. I’ll put my life on the line to get you where you need to go to get the treatment you need, and to figure out how to do it outside of the system you’re begging to preserve that’ll happily put you in the ground. Biden ain’t fucking it.

          Yes, you’re getting angry. You’ve been angry since the first comment I replied to. You’re just angry at all the wrong things and people. Cut that shit out.

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        you don’t get to decide what i am, and you don’t know what i do. you can blame other people for socialist candidates not being viable in this country all you want, but the reality is, that if we aren’t careful in the next election, people who want me and the people i love dead are gonna get into office, and our electoral system is designed to be winner takes all. unless you really genuinely think a socialist candidate has a solid shot at winning this next election cycle (and we both know they don’t even come close), your principles are gambling with human lives. i don’t have the privilege of having principles right now. i’m trying to survive. and diverting votes to candidates that can’t win makes it more likely the next guy has the power to follow through on his party’s threats of trans genocide. only one party has that on its ticket. that isn’t “trying to shame” anybody. i think that if you want the future you think you want, voting third party does not make sense, and is not strategically viable. we need to pick our enemies wisely.

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          I likely have as much to fear from the rising fascism as you do—I do from what you’ve indicated so far. Yet I am still an anarchist, whereas you are a liberal. You know what happens when you give up your principles, as you just admitted you have? You sell out everyone else and make sure they have even more to fear.

          As for your great saviors the fucking donkey-brand fascists, they literally made an outright transphobe—who fought to put trans women in men’s prisons—their vice president. They aren’t putting their bodies or even their political careers on the line to prevent trans genocide. They aren’t doing fuck all about it, in fact, and have been egging it on for decades themselves except when they need to stand up on the stage and claim there’s a difference between them and the elephant brand. And you’ve fallen for exactly this nonsense to convince you to pick one set of transphobic fascists over the other. It’s working. And you’re the sucker. “Anarchist.” LMFAO.

          Either way I’ll be fighting in the streets as well as standing up for my principles on all fronts, not just the ones where it’s convenient. Vote for your favorite brand of fascists if you like, but don’t try to shame those of us who are actually fighting instead of being reactionaries and blaming leftists and other working-class voters for their predicament as you are.