Right, that worked back in the day but it doesn’t work now because Republicans, conservatives, and people who own those people don’t care about saving the planet and don’t care about real actual science anymore. They will flatbout refuse to listen to facts, reason, and logic, so it’s impossible to have actual real conversations with them. If that stuff still worked, then we would already be working on trying to reverse what is happening, and we would be passing laws and issuing fines in the billions to companies like Exxon and BP.
Think about it. If we had the hole in the ozone right now instead of in the 80s there is absolutely no fucking way they would have passed the laws to fix it and the same goes for all the acid rain we had. If you think that stuff works, then please sell me whatever copium you have cuz christ could I use some.
Yes, there are some underlying issues which seem rooted in conservatisvism or rather its expression in modern politics.
But activism is not only about informing, it’s about pressuring the ruling class. And the more people support it, the better it works.
The ruling class was against civil rights, women’s rights, freeing slaves, Mahatma Ghandi, and so on. They were not convinced by facts, reason, or science. The people who are convinced by these need to show politicians that they are willing to stand up and protest if they don’t listen.
Repression against climate activism is (in my view) at an all-time high with movements even labeled as terrorists and a certain part of the populace agreeing with injuring or even killing members of climate activist groups. Not something I’d want to put myself into. :/
Yes, it’s hard. But I’d rather endure oppression than giving up.
However, there’s a lot you can do to support without repression. You can provide social media support, help with designing banners and stuff, take and edit pictures and videos, provide food, or also legal support, just as some examples.
Also, the more people join protests, the harder it is for the state to oppress them.
There is something you can do. You can get into and support climate activism.
Right, that worked back in the day but it doesn’t work now because Republicans, conservatives, and people who own those people don’t care about saving the planet and don’t care about real actual science anymore. They will flatbout refuse to listen to facts, reason, and logic, so it’s impossible to have actual real conversations with them. If that stuff still worked, then we would already be working on trying to reverse what is happening, and we would be passing laws and issuing fines in the billions to companies like Exxon and BP.
Think about it. If we had the hole in the ozone right now instead of in the 80s there is absolutely no fucking way they would have passed the laws to fix it and the same goes for all the acid rain we had. If you think that stuff works, then please sell me whatever copium you have cuz christ could I use some.
Agreed. If we aren’t fighting conservatism, we aren’t fighting climate change.
Conservatives are the army of the billionaires. Global heating will continue until conservatism is defeated. There is simply no way around this.
Yes, there are some underlying issues which seem rooted in conservatisvism or rather its expression in modern politics.
But activism is not only about informing, it’s about pressuring the ruling class. And the more people support it, the better it works.
The ruling class was against civil rights, women’s rights, freeing slaves, Mahatma Ghandi, and so on. They were not convinced by facts, reason, or science. The people who are convinced by these need to show politicians that they are willing to stand up and protest if they don’t listen.
Repression against climate activism is (in my view) at an all-time high with movements even labeled as terrorists and a certain part of the populace agreeing with injuring or even killing members of climate activist groups. Not something I’d want to put myself into. :/
Yes, it’s hard. But I’d rather endure oppression than giving up.
However, there’s a lot you can do to support without repression. You can provide social media support, help with designing banners and stuff, take and edit pictures and videos, provide food, or also legal support, just as some examples.
Also, the more people join protests, the harder it is for the state to oppress them.