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That’s a crazy thing for him to say. The election isn’t just his own little personal competition.
You didn’t watch his interview?
Watch it, he’s completely out of touch with reality and only cares about himself.
Not even “both sides” bullshit. trump would still cause more damage, but Biden is in no way capable of being president.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8LoAsHz-Mc
It’s 20 some minutes, just American up and watch it.
There’s not much time left to get the DNC to boot him, he’s not leaving on his own.
Wow an old fart falling on the spear of hubris where have I seen that before, oh yeah, RBG.
Literally every old person with a modicum of power or importance acts like this
Why did Nancy Pelosi run again (she’s currently 84)? Why did Chuck Grassley run for a term ending in 2028 (he’s currently 90)?
I’m 30 years old, and can’t wait to retire. Why won’t these dinosaurs take their millions and fuck off? They’re literally from the generation before the boomers, wtf
Their “work” and your work are not equivalent.
Their work is more similar to being on a home owner association and attending a few meetings here and there.
We’re so fucked. Biden is so fucking selfish and out of fucking touch that he literally going let Trump win.
If he doesn’t get his head out of his ass and Trump wins I hope he pays the consequences him and rest of his family. Because he literally will be handing America over to a fucking shit head fascist fucking all of our families.
I’ve been saying this for months now that they need to replace Biden. People here just called me a Trumper for criticizing Biden. And now…
I refuse to watch it. I’ve checked out at this point. He won’t drop out, and he is 100% going to lose the election. I’ve seen this show before. Spending an hour watching the same fucking story with a different actor is a waste of time. I knew Hillary was going to lose in 2016, and I know Biden is going to lose in 2024. My state is deep blue, so there is no reason I can find to even bring myself to care about this freakshow anymore.
He might have just had a health emergency, so…
In reality, yeah, but it sounds like he wants to show a bit of maturity to set him apart from his opponent.
Well, I know you definitely didn’t watch the interview…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8LoAsHz-Mc
Nothing in there was mature, and he said he wouldnt drop out unless “lord god” told him too. Wouldn’t entertain the possibility that some people may think he’s too old. Refused to believe he was losing in polls, refused to believe people had called for him to drop out, refused to answer a bunch of questions, or acknowledge there was any chance of him losing…
But then when he says he really doesn’t give a fuck if trump wins after spending 4 years saying trump winning would be the end of America…
This is an example of him showing maturity and a good thing to you?!
he said he wouldnt drop out unless “lord god” told him too.
I don’t think that’s exactly a fair characterization. He was being given a list of one person after another with “what if X asked you to drop out?”. It would be complete idiocy for him to say yes to any of that. So, he used the “lord God” expression to make it clear that his answer wasn’t going to change. Whether or not he is open to dropping out, he’s not going to nod in that direction publicly unless he’s already decided to do it. Frankly, it was a dumb line of questioning.
spending 4 years saying trump winning would be the end of America
End of America for plebs, he basically said the quiet part out loud here that he is rich enough that his life won’t change even a bit for the worse, if anything it might get better.
There is a whole: “I’m doing this for you and if you don’t appreciate it I’m just gonna lose and enjoy my money with a trump presidency” attitude imo.
With his current mental state I’m pretty sure anyone could hide behind a bush and tell him they’re God and that he should drop out. I think it would work.
We need a 50:50 mix of alcohol and water to pull off the “on fire but not consumed” trick.
and he said he wouldnt drop out unless “lord god” told him too.
Fuck! Somebody tell Yahweh to get his ass back here right away. A 3000 year vacation away from Earth is long enough.
So I guess it’s not a big deal if Trump wins? It’s not an apocalypse if he wins? This is like advising to make your own coffee while the banks get bailed out. When it comes to people voting, people should vote for Biden even if he can’t string a coherent sentence because Trump is the absolute biggest threat to democracy, but when it comes to Biden stepping down, it’s okay if he loses to Trump as long as he gives his best.
This isn’t the mentality Democrats need right now.
This fucking party lmao
Right? I don’t think Biden is able to appreciate the gravitas of this election. Like physically unable.
I doubt he is able to do much of anything. It feels like watching Weekend at Bernie’s.
Eh it’s just the end of democracy and well being of Americans. As long as he gave it his all. /Shrug
Well if he said he’d do what it takes, would that make you feel better? Because you know “his all” is all he has right? And if he gave all of it, should he be ashamed?
This is absolutely a game to the wealthy. They win no matter what.
Well, as me and my family are torn apart and sent to re-education camps at least I’ll have the comfort of knowing Joe “gave it his all”.
No you fucking didn’t.
Giving it your all would preclude doing things that decrease the number of votes you’re going to get, such as ending the rent moratorium, refusing to pack the court to protect Roe (because that would make it political lmao), trying to close the border, and facilitating a genocide.
You wanna be able to say you gave it your all? Drone strike the SCOTUS and use every means at your disposal to keep the fascists out of power.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why he should not be the candidate. Not because he’s old or whatever. Because he does not understand that if he loses, we fucking lose democracy. Not a joke; not hyperbole. We get to have Russian-style “elections” for the foreseeable future.
He is so fucking wrapped up in his own ego and hubris that he is going to drive us straight into the fucking wall. He’s so far up his own ass about his ability to compromise that he can’t comprehend that fascist elements of the Republican Party (but I repeat myself) have no intention whatsoever of compromising or negotiating once they really get their hands on the reins of power again.
He is betraying his oath of office. He’s not meaningfully protecting and defending the constitution from threats foreign and domestic, and he hasn’t done so effectively for basically his entire term. As a historical parallel, it’s like a mashup of the US in 1859 and Germany in 1932. It’s baffling, infuriating, and horrifying, in equal measure. His head is demonstrably not in the game - and it seems he doesn’t even understand the game he’s playing (that’s not a “he’s old” quip - I’m talking about the fact that he continues to bring a deck of cards to the shitshow gunfight that is modern American politics and expects to get good results).
Yes. 100% this. Age is just a number. But we need Democrats that will fight for us, for god’s sake. Not just shrug at losing because they, personally, gave it their all. Fuuuuuuuck that noise.
Fuck me, he doesn’t even care about the real risk Trump poses, not only to the US, but to the world. I don’t care if he’s done a few good things in his time, Biden’s literally going to hand the presidency back to this felonious fucking psychopathic liar.
I swear in 2016 I got blipped into an alternative dimension where eventually everything will be consumed by the langoliers
Edit: The US invented MRNA vaccines, and we get the piece of shit from The Apprentice to hold our nuclear codes, handed the baton by a senile old man asleep at the wheel.
He’s going to give it his all, but also he’s going to make sure that he gets enough sleep and avoid scheduling events past 8 pm.
Unironically I absolutely believe that pacing yourself properly is the only way to actually “give it your all”. Unless you want him to load up on stimulants of questionable legality, but those might actually kill him before election night.
Yes, the campaigning equivalent of a slow shuffle is realistically what “giving his all” means for Biden at this point. The problem is his insistence that this is also better than what anyone else could possibly do.
I agree with you, but at the same time I can’t think of any other candidate that would both (1) have enough name recognition to motivate semi-apathetic democrats to vote, and (2) not rile up the semi-apathetic bigots into counter-voting.
According to the gossip, Biden has said that if he does choose to step down, he’ll promote Harris. I don’t think Democrats will have much of a problem supporting Harris, but I’m concerned being a woman of color will motivate a lot of bigots into a counter-vote when they might have otherwise stayed home. The next best pick might be Buttigieg, but then you get the homophobic bigots coming out for the counter-vote. Newsom might be the next best after that, but then you have the anti-California lunatics coming out to counter-vote him.
As much as I don’t want to cater to bigots, I think the stakes are just too high here. If it were a campaign against Mitt Romney then I wouldn’t think twice about running any of these people, but when we’re on a razor’s edge against America spiraling into a fascist dictatorship, every risk needs to be accounted for.
Obviously Biden should’ve declared back in August that he wouldn’t run for reelection so the Democrats could run a primary and build up someone to have name recognition and a positive image, but now it’s too late for that 🤷♂️
I know it is just a wet dream but plenty of french-leftist would love to see AOC as president.
Young, woman, Latino. That would anger the conservatives so much and she would probably do very good things for the US population.
But hey no judgment, maybe tomorrow (Sunday 7th) we will be fucked as well…
I would personally love to see AOC as president. Unfortunately I don’t constitute a majority of the electoral college, and right now that’s the only backstop we have against the descent into a fascist dictatorship.
Better for someone his age.
What do you realistically want him to do? What’s an example day for him, according to you?
No, I want him to make the biggest sacrifice he can make. Give up his ego and step down.
Official Act to lockup the fascists as domestic terrorists, then bow out of the race.
People can be released from prison. Fascists require a more permanent solution.
Also time for napsies in the after noon
Also no meetings before 11 in the morning
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Bernie Sanders is older.
I don’t see a problem with this. Your definition of “giving it all” would mean him collapsing at some point. That’s not giving it all, if the goal is to serve the American people.
Dude, if he was a firefighter and said the same thing, what would you’re answer be? If there is a fire after 8 pm then you are up fighting the fire. Same with a nurse on call, an air traffic controller, etc. This is a requirement of the most powerful position on earth making decisions that literally impact all of humanity and the fate of western democracy.
If he can’t do it he shouldn’t be running. Go be a prof or join a corporate board or something if you want a 9-5 and a stable bed time. The president of the United States needs to be able to operate on very little sleep and past 8 pm because this is the fucking real world…
Ok, sure, sure, but at this point, that’s all we got. Give it all (then die and set the political landscape back to Trump-era bullshit), or recognize your limits and respect them in order to do the job as best as you can.
What should we be doing different that would NOT give Trump the presidency? Do tell, please. I’d love to be wrong.
This isn’t going to end well. He needs to fuck off.
Joe Biden is on track to win. Anyone else LOSES.
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Everything else aside, I really dislike it when I read a shitty, low-effort reply like this one.
Why bother using more words in response to shitty posts?
To show the rest of Lemmy you’re not an easy block?
Couldn’t give a fuck.
easy block
If he’s in the general, I’ll vote for Biden’s head in a jar if it comes to that, but this is starting to have some real Hillary 2016 vibes about it. There are a whole lot of dipshits out there that think they are more or less the same because they are both old white guys, which is just Peak Stupid, but there you have it.
I think someone else given the chance, like Gavin Newsom, would build a brand in time for the fall. They’d have to much free press as a consequence of being chosen and if we get someone that is a real GD fighter for Americans they’d do well, IMHO.
Might be more accurate with the image of Grandpa yelling at the sky for Trump.
Yes, perfect!
although during the sleep, i started to think whether this might be more appropriate
Holy mackerel, you’re right! THIS is better!
Not my meme, but you’re right!
We’re all going to die because another Boomer won’t retire.
Spoken like a person who will not have to live long under the consequences of that hubris, and whose family wealth will insulate their offspring.
I’m gonna vote for you, Biden, but your personal “peace” is a shitty umbrella the rest of us don’t get to live under.
Yeah but we won’t be.
I wonder if he’ll feel that way when he’s put on trial on live television and sentenced to death. Or, if that doesn’t happen, if he’ll feel that way when millions of minorities are killed by trumps brown shirt equivalents or sent to camps to die. Course, he’ll probably be dead by the time everything comes to fruition even if he doesn’t get sentenced to death cause he’s so old.
Rich people unable to view things outside of the narrow lens of their own self-actualisation.
That’s self-interest, not self-actualization. Part of self-actualizing is realizing you aren’t the center of the universe.
Joe Biden isn’t rich. upperish middle class, maybe.
He’s either REALLY bad with money or have a lot of it stashed away somewhere.
An ambitious politician from Pennsylvania doesn’t just move to tiny Delaware unless the fact that it’s the most corporation-friendly of all the states has something to do with it.
" If you go out and bundle $250K for me, all legal, and then you call me after I’m elected and say ‘Joe, I’d like to talk to you about something.’ I’m gonna say ‘Come on in.’ It’s human nature.”
- Joe Biden, failing to acknowledge that legal corruption is still corruption.
If he doesn’t use his brand new immunity powers to have the military remove his opposition then he hasn’t “given it his all”.
And you know if Trump gets in power he’s going to doing exactly that to his adversaries.
