After peddling fake Hamas 'beheaded babies' story, media ignores actual beheaded Palestinian baby
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The media ran wall-to-wall front page stories on the fake claim Hamas beheaded babies. Now it's a Palestinian baby beheaded, they're silent
  • hopesdead@startrek.website
    661·
    6 个月前

    No shock here. A majority of the world is on a stance of “anything/anyone against the state of Israel is antisemitism”. This is such a false equivalency. Just because something/someone is against what the government of Israel, does not mean it/they are hateful towards the Jewish people. Hell, making such an equivalency is placing actually Jewish people in an unintended hate group.

    • filister@lemmy.world
      6·
      6 个月前

      Majority of the government in the West. I am sure if you start reading news from arabic media you will see a completely different story.

      The problem is that international law is applied differently based on the country abusing it. And Israel is trying to shape the news perspective, by its bot army in English speaking of outlets and pushing hard a media campaign trying to discredit everyone who is not acting according to their interest.

      Their foreign minister is posting some despicable videos and trying to link Spain and Hamas and claim that Spain is complicit in war crimes is nothing but despicable and shows the morale of all their government.

    • The dogspaw @midwest.socialEnglish
      4·
      6 个月前

      Its not just a false equivalence it’s actually antisemitic most of these people are only pro israel because they think that israel is need for the final battle against Satan we love you because we need you to die lol

        • Two9A@lemmy.world
          9·
          6 个月前

          As I understand it, the prophecy is that when the state of Israel is fully unified once more, and the temple of Solomon is rebuilt, Jesus will return and the second battle of Armageddon will commence.

          End of the world, rapture of the believers into Heaven, the whole bit.

  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
    303·
    6 个月前

    Yeah but israel also burnt babies alive surely the media would be in shambles about tha…

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        31·
        6 个月前

        I fully believe you (and I can’t believe I’m asking for this) but do you have a source

        wait so, why would you believe someone and then ask for a source?

        Why not just like, ask for a source? You can ask someone for a source while still believing them, you might just want more information for example.

        • TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world
          4·
          6 个月前

          1-Because I’ve had some people online get real defensive when I’ve asked for sources

          2-Cause I was a few shots deep by that point so I just kinda say things

          • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            3·
            6 个月前

            1-Because I’ve had some people online get real defensive when I’ve asked for sources

            i mean i get it, but that should show someone elses character more than yours.

            2-Cause I was a few shots deep by that point so I just kinda say things

            fair enough honestly

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
          152·
          6 个月前

          There’s no repercussions.

          Almost all major western propaganda outlets claimed they saw photo and video evidence of rape. Something that we now know is a massive lie since the UN investigation showed there was zero evidence only oral testimonies.

    • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
      2·
      6 个月前

      I just listened to this, it’s actually a bit before your timestamp, but based on the context of the conversation there having, it seems like they’re talking about actually seeing the dead Palestinian kids. When she says “them” it seems to me like she’s saying we’ve now actually seen decapitated kids, whereas as before we only had hearsay

      • 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚐@lemmy.world
        2·
        6 个月前

        Thanks, I’ll re-listen and edit. I certainly don’t want to cast an unwarranted aspergion.

        Edit: You’re absolutely correct, the dialog required careful attention. I’ll fix my post.

  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
    104·
    6 个月前

    Surely this baby will be the one that tips libs off that this may in fact be a genocide, right? Or do we have to wait for more for them to wake up?

  • 🔍🦘🛎@lemmy.worldEnglish
    53·
    6 个月前

    Where can I find the actual video of the decapitations? It looks like uploads might be taken down? Tons of tweets saying it’s everywhere on the internet, but I don’t use Twitter and I can’t find any uploads.

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    32·
    6 个月前

    man, it’s almost like hyper politicized, hyper-narrative stories. Don’t actually do much, or something.

    Wondering how long it’s going to take the media, and people to realize that war is just, bad. Wait until you guys find out what russia has done to their domestic population, as well as ethnic minority groups, and prisoners. Remember the sledge hammer video? Yeah, me too.

    • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
      502·
      6 个月前

      Ok, Israel decapitated Palestinian babies and the media are not reporting it.

        • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
          10·
          6 个月前

          From Up First:

          Disturbing description of violence against children

          [A witness] says he found one kid with his stomach sliced and his intestines out. Another child had been decapitated. He also said he saw children in body parts.

            • pingveno@lemmy.ml
              413·
              6 个月前

              Decapitating, because there isn’t evidence of intent. Just phenomenally cruel and negligent dropping a bomb anywhere near civilians, especially at that density. Then again, I suppose intent gets fuzzy given how foreseeable something like this was.

              • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
                133·
                6 个月前

                Right, and the one kid wasn’t disemboweled, they had spontaneous oopsy-doodles-guts-all-noodles, and the other wasn’t dismembered, they went red-rover-red-rover-your-limbs-are-all-over.

                • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  49·
                  6 个月前

                  Disemboweling is disemboweling, dismemberment is dismemberment, neither one has any bearing on intent. Beheading implies the bombs were dropped at least in part to decapitate children, which there is zero evidence of. But again, I don’t think the intent distinction necessarily matters that much, given that Israel bombed an area where this was a foreseeable outcome.

              • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
                5·
                6 个月前

                I don’t think intent is required. Behead’s definition says “cut off the head of (someone), especially as a form of execution.” The especially part means it isn’t exclusive to that.

                Both Be-head and De-capit(ate) = Off-head

                • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  31·
                  6 个月前

                  I think this is just one of those “language is complicated” things. I’m seeing multiple definitions out there. I don’t know really how much it matters, it starts to approach a semantic argument and getting away from the actual concrete events that have occurred.

    • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
      331·
      6 个月前

      As someone who watched the video, I don’t think anyone in that situation cares about your distinction.

        • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          6 个月前

          I’ve seen enough shock images posted online for a lifetime already. The audio from the witness on NPR’s Up First was enough.

    • xantoxis@lemmy.world
      302·
      6 个月前

      No they aren’t.

      Decapitate is used in the definition of behead.

      Behead is used in the definition of decapitate. What kind of weird-ass apologia are you doing here anyway.

    • Tangentism@lemmy.ml
      263·
      6 个月前

      You’re trying to deflect from a story about murdered Palestinian children with a “Well, ackchyually…”

      What a piece of shit

    • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
      137·
      6 个月前

      I’m not sure how material the difference is, but you’re correct: beheading is deliberate decapitation. I assume they’re just being sloppy about definitions.

      • Tangentism@lemmy.ml
        131·
        6 个月前

        I’m pretty sure that dropping a 2000lb bomb on a refugee camp is deliberate.

    • qevlarr@lemmy.world
      31·
      6 个月前

      Thanks for informing us. Of course you know this isn’t the most important thing about this, but at least I learned something new.