• KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    It’s still missing core functionality for an init system, like a display server protocol, compositor, desktop environment and web browser smh.

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    6 months ago

    What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, Systemd/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Systemd + Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Systemd system made useful by the Systemd corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX

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    6 months ago

    When does systemd stop? Linux without it is increasingly looking unlikely in the future. Are we not worried about it being a single point of failure and attack vector?

    This isn’t a moan about the unix philosophy btw, but a genuine curiosity about how we split responsibilities in todays linux environment.

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      6 months ago

      SystemD will consume the entirety of Linux, bit by bit.

      • In 2032, SystemD announces they’re going to be introducing a new way to manage software on Linux
      • In 2035, SystemD will announce they’re making a display system to replace the ageing Wayland
      • In 2038, the SystemD team announces they’re making their own desktop environment
      • In 2039 SystemD’s codebase has grown to sixteen times its size in the 2020s. SystemD’s announces they’re going to release replacements for most other packages and ship their own vanilla distro.
      • In 2045 SystemD’s distro has become the standard Linux distribution. Most other distros have quietly faded away.
      • In 2047, SystemD announces they’re going to incorporate most of GNU into SystemD. Outrage ensues from the Free Software Foundation, which vehemently opposes this move.
      • In 2048, Richard Stallman dies of a heart attack after attempting to clone SystemD’s git repo. SystemD engages in a hostile takeover and all resistance within the FSF crumbles
      • In 2050, SystemD buys the struggling RedHat from IBM for $61 million.
      • In 2053, most world governments have been pressured into using SystemD.
      • In 2054, Linus Torvalds, fearing for his life, begins negotiations to merge kernel development into SystemD
      • In 2056, the final message on the Linux kernel development mailing list is sent.
      • In 2058, Torvalds dies under suspicious circumstances after his brand-new laptop battery explodes.
      • In 2060, SystemD agents assassinate the CEO of Microsoft.
      • In 2063, after immense pressure from SystemD-controlled human rights organisations, Arch developers discontinue development.
      • In 2064, the remaining living Debian developers release the next stable version of their clandestine and highly illegal distro.
  • vsis@feddit.cl
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    6 months ago

    Oh, it’s gonna use polkit. Sudo bloat is a grain of sand compared to polkit.

    Why people want to replace sudo with polkit? Visudo is no near as obscure as configuring polkit.

    I hope distro maintainers don’t follow this.

  • ouch@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    How does systemd-run/run0 handle what /etc/sudoers currently does?

    I’m disappointed in how little technical discussion there is in this thread.

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      6 months ago

      Systemd has always been about “don’t ask questions or well call you obstructionist and old”.