Why would anyone want to stay connected to a Nazi community, except for the obvious reasons?
Besides that Nazis were just one extreme example, even there you can make the case that not everything people there care about is nazi stuff.
It’s like looking at a specifically Christian instance you wouldn’t expect their users to only ever post or comment about God or Jesus.
Users of such an instance can very well comment on instances like gaming or technology that have nothing to do with their particular instance world view and you wouldn’t know they are nazis and it also wouldn’t matter, instead their comments would benefit the thread just as much as any other comments.
By defederating the instance, you’ll also block interactions like this.
Lets take a tech community on a regular instance as an example. I make a post because I have a problem that needs quick help. Should I care if a person commenting and offering me a solution to my issue could potentially be a nazi because he is a member of Instance that is known for nazis? No because that has nothing to do with the thread. If he can help my with my problem I would want to see his post.
Should I care if a person commenting and offering me a solution to my issue could potentially be a nazi because he is a member of Instance that is known for nazis?
I think it’s generally a good idea to avoid interactions with people who literally want to commit genocide. I’m willing to risk having to wait five minutes longer for assistance with my computer problem.
@Taxxor@Tvkan, No, there are principles that cannot be crossed due to ethics, at least for me it is a no go. There may be contributions that may be of interest, but this does not justify an interaction with Nazis. There are also contributions of interest in other groups, probably even more. If I’m in an instance where I’ve seen Nazi garbage, xeno- or homophobic comments, the next automatic step is to block this instance, I don’t want this shit to appear on my timeline.
Nazis aren’t the point. Censorship is. Hard to see how a community that requires an individual federated server for everyone to avoid censorship is going to eventually come close to the popularity of Reddit.
Why would anyone want to stay connected to a Nazi community, except for the obvious reasons?
Nothing prevents people from just creating new accounts on another instance of lemmy - ban evasion is trivial.
If you’re uncomfortable with this feel free to set up your own server.
Besides that Nazis were just one extreme example, even there you can make the case that not everything people there care about is nazi stuff.
It’s like looking at a specifically Christian instance you wouldn’t expect their users to only ever post or comment about God or Jesus.
Users of such an instance can very well comment on instances like gaming or technology that have nothing to do with their particular instance world view and you wouldn’t know they are nazis and it also wouldn’t matter, instead their comments would benefit the thread just as much as any other comments.
By defederating the instance, you’ll also block interactions like this.
Lets take a tech community on a regular instance as an example. I make a post because I have a problem that needs quick help. Should I care if a person commenting and offering me a solution to my issue could potentially be a nazi because he is a member of Instance that is known for nazis? No because that has nothing to do with the thread. If he can help my with my problem I would want to see his post.
I think it’s generally a good idea to avoid interactions with people who literally want to commit genocide. I’m willing to risk having to wait five minutes longer for assistance with my computer problem.
@Taxxor @Tvkan, No, there are principles that cannot be crossed due to ethics, at least for me it is a no go. There may be contributions that may be of interest, but this does not justify an interaction with Nazis. There are also contributions of interest in other groups, probably even more. If I’m in an instance where I’ve seen Nazi garbage, xeno- or homophobic comments, the next automatic step is to block this instance, I don’t want this shit to appear on my timeline.
Nazis aren’t the point. Censorship is. Hard to see how a community that requires an individual federated server for everyone to avoid censorship is going to eventually come close to the popularity of Reddit.
If reddit had had /r/NationalSocialism and /r/ChildPornography and refused to ban them, I don’t think it would’ve become as popular as it is.
It called them /r/jailbait and /r/the_donald.
And then rightfully
defederatedbanned them.Same with /r/FatPeopleHate - reddit got so much better once they shut that sub down.
Still not the point.