I understand why they did what they did and it makes me think of how db0 and other admins are saying fuck all and taking a very big liability for making and supporting a free internet and i want to say all the work you do is very much appreciated. Also shoutout to lemmy.ml admins for running a similar community on their own .
Links for supporting the db0 server and do consider donating as it is running behind on expenses.
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I will never give a shoutout to lemmy.ml for anything. They run a tankie lovefest of an instance.
dude, lemmy was created by ML’s. Youre a fucking cretin, you sad sack of sobs
And Steve Jobs believed he could cure his cancer with acupuncture and dietary supplements. Does that mean that I should respect him because he innovated the iPhone? Lol
He didn’t innovate shit loser, he stole the hard work of his employees, most of which was itself based on information and technology developed by government research
Shut up, fool
Ope, must have struck a nerve 😂
Maybe I’m wrong, but the fediverse and technology like Activity Pub existed long before Lemmy. So irrespective of the “creators” it would have been developed by someone eventually. Do I respect the work that they put into it? Sure. Do I respect them? I guess in some fashion, since they’re human beings. Do I respect their hateful ideologies? Fuck no lol
You don’t understand the first thing about the ideologies you claim to hate because you know them. Its clear you don’t. You paint with such a broad brush it’s clear you understand nothing lol
Also, yes! It is Very annoying when twerps like you give Steve apple and Elon musk and Edison credit for the things they stole from the people they exploit, it sickens me, as a matter of fact. Because I understand the cruelty inherent to the ideology which powers the system that lifted these industrial tyrants to their undeserved positions of power and influence.
You’re looking specifically at the metaphor I used instead of the principal. Let’s use a more direct comparison. Operation Paperclip brought more than 1600 former nazi scientists to America to develop technologies that they worked on for Hitler and Nazi Germany. Aeronautics, genetics, medical studies, etc.
I’d imagine that most worked for Nazi Germany under the threat of death or imprisonment, but there’s more than a few that worked enthusiastically for the nazi party given a sample size that large. Am I supposed to respect Josef Mengele and the people that worked under his supervision for the medical advancements made under his cruel and torturous experimentation of jewish prisoners? And no, that’s not a rhetorical question. I actually want you to address that question with a simple yes or no.
The fact that you’re using this example to make a point about “tankies” is hilarious. Do you know who liberated Auschwitz?
What the fuck are you saying? Mengele was not among those brought over by paperclip and he didn’t exactly do useful experimentation. Fuck him, fuck the Japanese scientists who would have made for a better example if you were less dogbrained, and fuck the Nazi scientists who no, would not have been shot regardless.
It’s beyond stupid to describe communism as “hateful” as though it is based on a bigotry like aryanism is.
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Certainly not these 1600 of the upper eschelon. Probably a few, sure, but most? Of these 1600 that the US went out of its way to save and coddle? Nah, the ones who had no choice were working class folks and even then not nearly most, the rest chose it. Especially those 1600. Not to mention nazi medical experiments did not yield anything of value that wouldn’t have been obtained another way. They learned only how to inflict great suffering.
I find your example invalid
But lets pretend I don’t. Let’s pretend they DID make important discoveries that have saved millions of lives? No! What the fuck? No of course not!
I don’t even understand your point here. I specifically don’t respect these positions of power and the people who occupy them and use them to exploit others? That was what my post was ABOUT?
What are you talking about???
Little tankie is angry. Don’t stomp your little feet to hard. You might wake your parents.
Die :)
Grrr! So angwy. It’s a big scary world out there.
Hateful ideologies like “stop bombing brown people” and “hey maybe we should restructure our economy so that it doesn’t run on third world slave labor and kill poor people with treatable illnesses”
Shut up loser
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Well… yes. And its a good thing.
brb, making a new account on lemmy.ml
Based as hell if true
They‘re literally the reason you can post this. Show a little respect.
They have literally zero to do with the reason I can post. My instance is still federated with @lemmy.dbzer0.com
They made the program you‘re using but okay.
…Do you not know the Lemmy devs?
I’ve noticed people overuse the word ‘tankie’ to the point it just means ‘independent.’
Ya’ll tribalists really need to get your shit together, lol. Rational people aren’t taking you seriously, anymore.
They’re a pretty textbook example of a tankie group. To even join the instance you have to copy and paste a paragraph from 1 of 2 communist texts and any criticisms of China and/or Russia gets you banned lol. I would honestly not be surprised in the slightest if Russia or China were funneling money to the Mali government to actively encourage radical communist behavior on the .ml domain. Mali was another failed communist country afterall. The .ml users often support Russia in the Ukrainian conflict and act like Western countries are forcing capitalism on the world because sovereign countries like Taiwan and Ukraine are actively trying to assimilate into western culture and establish capitalist democracies. Their proposed solution to another nation choosing to distance themselves from the failed communist autocracies they were part of is to forcibly invade, detain, relocate, and resettle the land with communist friendly nationals.
Unrestricted capitalism is bad, but it’s demonstrably not as bad as the attempts at “communism” over the course of the last century that almost always end up becoming a communist autocracy. (East Germany, Soviet Union, Cuba, Taiwan, Afghanistan, Belarus, Cambodia, Czech Republic, Poland, North Vietnam, Hungary, North Korea)
Communism ≠ socialism.
I didn’t read all that because it started off asinine and only looked to get worse as I read on.
I think you focus too much on ‘isms’ because you, yourself, succumb to tribalism.
Here’s an ‘-ism’ for you: pragmatism. Real solutions to real problems. Try to focus on a case by case basis instead of treating everything like a tribalist, ideological battle.
The world just isn’t as simple as your small minds want it to be.
Lol. The classic. “I’m not going to read that.”
Haha did they ban you? They got strong opinions, but don’t hold a grudge! Grab a tankard and join their lovefest!
Nah! They’re fake commies.
I can respect the idea of communism and the people trying to make it work.
Those guys are not that.
Hmmm I’ve heard lemon commies call tatertrot commies fake commies. Are you a lemon or marker?
lol, never heard ML being “lemon” and trot being a “tatertrot”. Cute!
Shipping has gotten weird these days. I knew there was countries-as-waifus (Hetalia et al) but never expected now instances-as-waifus so as to see lemons of.
I know that trot means Trotsky other than that my views can be summed up as “ If you want to be a communist, awesome, maybe you will be the ones to figure out how to make it last. If you decide to do that at the point of a gun, then you can suck off your rifle until it busts a nut in your mouth.”
Hmm, no youre right that doesn’t sound respectful at all