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    Whelp, I’ve got cancer. It’s the second time I’ve had it. About 9 months ago I was told the docs would treat me but I probably wouldn’t make it.

    Its been a hell of a time.

    It’s a blood cancer so at the moment I look normal from the outside. I’ve changed a lot though, in the sense that I’ve become more me.

    I don’t give a shit about anything except for spending time with people I like. I especially don’t care about money or work.

    It (death) is taking a lot longer to happen than I thought it would.

    The real trip has been seeing other people’s reactions; I accepted it early on but other people have had very different reactions. Mostly I think they just don’t know how to react, or they don’t think it will actually happen, or both.

    I don’t think the human mind is capable of understanding the concepts of “eternity” or “oblivion” very well.

    I do believe in God but it’s still scary.

    Its the everyday things that catch you off guard; the other day I was wondering when the next soccer world cup would be, then I realised I probably wouldn’t be around for it.

    I think when I finally die it will be a relief from all the physical pain.

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      Fucking hell dude, I wish you all the best there is and to enjoy the ride to the fullest while it lasts, which I hope it does for a long time.

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        4 years ago next week marks my mom’s diagnosis and the 10 months that followed. Watching your loved ones go slowly insane and become unable to speak and move in such a short time (she was mid 50s) when they should be healthy changes you. Everything I look at, everything I think about is now looked at under a different lense. And given my age, there just aren’t a lot of people around me who have any idea what it’s like and assume it’s just handling the pain.

        Like… no. I’m different now.

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          Sorry you had to go through that. I hope you’ve been able to use that experience to make the most of life.

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          Luckily I have a good therapist.

          Who lost his sister to it.

          Doesn’t help that my brother also died of a heroin overdose (just 5 months before diagnosis ).

          My mom moved away after Dad died to live near her sister… Which I understand. But dam I feel abandoned.

          Also sometime in between I got a fibromyalgia diagnosis. So in also grieving my old life/body. Bleh. Hugs 🫂

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            Damn you’ve had it hard. I hope you find some joy in life, you deserve it.

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        I often think that as my body wastes away it will be a lot harder for the people around me than it will be for me.

        They will have to watch it happen knowing they can’t help, whereas once I’m gone I won’t have to deal with the sadness and aftermath.

        Sorry you had to deal with that.

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      I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this, it sounds like you have as great an attitude about it as possible though. If it’s too personal don’t feel obligated to answer, but I’m genuinely curious how you accepted it? Since my dad passed away several years ago I’ve become intensely afraid of dying. Like to the point I know I need to talk to someone about it. But I’d be really interested to hear your thoughts/ journey there

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        It’s a tough question to answer, as it has been a very long and winding road, as they say.

        I’ve had chronic health issues for most of my life, so thinking about dying isn’t new. Plus I’ve even had cancer before, so I really thought about it then.

        I think time is the main factor. Just sitting with the idea, being comfortable with it, not struggling against it, recognising that it happens to us all, some sooner than others, and that’s OK.

        When I feel upset or anxious about death I don’t push it away, I focus on my breathing and tell myself that not only is it totally OK to feel this way, but it’s completely normal. I imagine that I’m swimming in the ocean and a wave has lifted me up. I don’t need to do anything, just relax and the wave will pass through me, and I’ll still be there afterwards.

        Early on into my relapse I got high (weed) and my brain took me to this place where I imagined life without me in it. Kind of like a ghost, watching everyone react before slowly getting back into their daily lives. I cried a lot that night but since then I’ve been a lot calmer and accepting of it.

        Yes, people will be sad but they will ultimately be OK. Everything will continue as normal once I’m gone, and that’s a good thing.

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    I used to think I wanted whatever possible done to keep me alive. Use the machines, keep me in the coma for years, what have you. Maybe someday they’ll fix me.

    My grandmother had a pretty massive stroke. She had some sort of living will, Do Not Resuscitate, something like that, but none of the family could really bring themselves to enforce that so they put a temporary feeding tube in and I think when that reached its limit switched to a more permanent variety.

    I can’t remember if she woke up before or after the second feeding tube, but she did wake up in just a couple days; the stroke happened on a Friday and she was definitely awake the next week. She said she was glad they did the feeding tube.

    However, while she was still able to talk pretty well, she lost her ability to swallow. Not only could she not eat anything and had to stay on the feeding tube, she couldn’t even drink anything or she risked it going into her lungs. Every time she felt her throat get dry she had to have a nurse with a wet sponge come moisten her throat. They tried electroshock therapy, but it never helped. She described it as the worst torture she’d ever felt and wouldn’t wish it on her worst enemy, but continued trying it because there wasn’t any other alternative from the doctors and it’s really hard to live and not be able to swallow.

    She spent months like this, back and forth between the hospital and rehab/nursing centers, doing better but then getting sick in the homes and having to go back to the higher care of the hospital. She never returned to her own home except for a couple hours when one of her sons took her just to see it. In the end one of those times in a nursing home she got sick and started vomiting, some of which went in her lungs and led to her death in just a day or two. All those preceding months of suffering seemed like a waste, just delaying the inevitable.

    I don’t want everything possible done to keep me alive anymore. I don’t want to die, but sometimes there are worse things than dying.

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    I was in the hospital in January following a heart attack.

    I woke up one morning and was on my phone when the nurse came in.

    “Were you asleep about an hour ago?”

    “Yeah, why?”

    “Your heart stopped for 8 seconds.”

    “. . . Uh, thanks? I guess? I’m not sure what you want me to do with that information.”

    Never knew it happened.

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        Apparently it alerted at the nurses station but didn’t set off any alarms in the room… or so I was told… I mean, I WAS asleep…

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    That it’s normally never quick and painless and that it can happen at any time.

    You could just be walking down the street and trip and fall into the road or smack your head off something or have a heart attack/stroke/aneurism.

    One missed second with hitting the brakes in your car. One misstep. One mistake. Hell you can even be doing everything right and still get caught in something that leads to your death.

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    Death by massive head injury is not a bad way to go. I remember a sunny morning, heading to the bank a mile from my house to deposit my paycheck, and riding towards work. I merged behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee to pass an idiot that was double parked in the bike lane. It was down hill and I easily topped 35 mph to match speed with the Jeep. That is the last thing I remember. Like it was all totally blank and even worse than anesthesia level blackout.

    Three hours later, someone pulled a large piece of glass out of my face that severed major nerve in my lip. That woke me up.

    That is how I want to go; a pretty day on a nice bike ride, feeling fantastic, then totally blank.

    In reality, I was lucid the whole time apparently, or so I was told. I honestly do not have ANY memory of it whatsoever. If you know of anyone that dies tragically with a major head injury, I want you to think of me. Even if they appeared conscious or aware but disoriented, that wasn’t the last thing they felt or remembered, I promise, I’ve lived it; only barely survived it. I still don’t remember a thing.

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    Don’t go too fast on roads you haven’t ridden your motorcycle on before.

    Though, a friend died on the same road after avoiding a pothole and striking a car, the trailer ran over his chest. He was teaching a new young rider the ropes and wasn’t going fast. The pothole formed over the last few months he hadn’t been up there. The local council denied it existed. We rode up and took a photo for the local news and a truck was there about to fill it in as we arrived. It was shallow but took almost half the lane on a blind corner.

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    No matter what, if you love somebody, tell them as often as you can. Say it every time you say goodbye. Don’t let someone walk away when you’ve both said nasty, hurtful things. If you are putting off seeing someone, or calling someone, just do it.

    You cant take ANY of that back. And you’ll never forgive yourself.

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    Life is random, and meanness and cold. No matter who you are, death comes with no bias. You have to make life worth living in the now because I have seen the regret and pain in the eyes of the dying far too many times. Also be nice to your kids.

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    How to accept and let go of someone. I lost my dad very early in my life. It was sad, and unexpected, and to this day it does feel like I lack a father figure (hope this doesn’t sound weird, English isn’t my first language). But, I realize, there’s no use excessive crying over someone’s death. It’s not like I can change anything about that. I learned quickly it’s better to leave the past and move on.

    If you ask me whether I miss him or not, I do miss him. But, really, it’s not something I can control.

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    Death can come to anyone at any time and unless you live to be 150 years old it will always seem like you didn’t get enough time, so it’s best not to worry about it.

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    A dead body doesn’t look real. The stillness and one’s denial mechanisms combine to make it look like a mannequin.

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      Also, if the person has a protracted fight with a disease or simply old age (ie anything that isn’t a sudden death) they rarely look like themselves. One elderly family member had an open casket and I could barely recognize them, they wasted away to half of their normal size.

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      When my mother went she had an aggressive immune therapy to fight lymphoma. That’s what actually killed her. Ended up looking like 3rd degree burns all over, unconscious and shivering… didn’t look like her.

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    Grief…doesn’t motivate you. In movies, guys like me, people who have had loved ones killed through prejudices and big evil organizations 🐘 do something about it. Whether that’s activism or something more illegal. But I was way more aggressive about my political views before my girlfriend died. Now it’s like…I can’t muster up the ability to give enough of a shit to do more than vote.

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    This one is macabre.

    I am a homestead farmer so I have hundreds of animals most of which I raised like a baby, they all have names, each was hand fed and raised from birth by my wife and I. We are deeply attached to each of them and it is like losing a child when one dies.

    Firstly I can tell you that you can get used to your children dying, you can repress it. I’ve spent many hours digging graves over time made all the more painful by the fact that often times I would stay with these animals through the entirety of their ill health. Often they would sleep in the room with my wife and I or even in the bed if the right type. When you read something like charolettes Web or what have you and see some old farmer indifferent to their child who wants to keep their animal friend. That is not from some kind of “depersonisation” or dissonance or even indifference to this animal, it is knowing acceptance from a lifetime of pain watching their friends and children die and being forced to bury them.

    I can tell you that if you need cpr I’m your man, I’ve had alot of practice. There’s lots of things cpr won’t fix but that had never stopped me from trying. Maybe just maybe if they can have that extra breath or beat they can beat whatever ails them so I try. Here’s the fucked part; there is a moment where when something dies, it’s easier to see in mammals, there is a moment just before the death rattle, you can see the thing is dead and if you have seen this before you will know what I’m talking about. At this moment of gasping you can “catch” them, like you are catching their escaping souls with your lungs and blowing it back into their mouths. Their eyes get glazed and they do this straining wail and tilt their head, all things in the same way, that is your moment to bring them back and you can see it instantly as their eyes come back to focus and they usually scream in some way.

    I’ve only ever saved 2 in this fashion and I have a large grave yard.

    There is no God.

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    It’s difficult to summarize into words, and English because many of the ideas and experiences of the post-life world transcend easy explanation, but here goes nothing (and I’m fine with being judged/downvoted, most of this will seem like nonsense to casual readers):

    1. The goals, priorities, duties, missions, and dreams you have, what you value, and believe to be importantisn’t.

    A. Approximately 180 seconds after you accept you’re not recovering from your imminent death, you are immediately pardoned from all duties, debts, goals and otherwise.

    B. Basically everything you’d been worried about, stops worrying or bothering you. Your name is off the high score board, permanently, so to speak.

    1. Cognition is dependent on physicality.

    A. The way that humans experience reality depends on their sensory organs, brain, and various other instruments to create a quasi coherent image of the world.

    B. The raw state of being, is absolute chaos. It defies description. Hegel tried his best to put it into words but he also failed. Time is non-linear. Nothing makes any sense. Dimensions don’t exist. Quantum physics barely scrapes the surface of what’s going on.

    1. Consciousness is independent of physicality.

    A. Almost immediately after the ripping and dissolution of the corporeal body, after the dynamic system that used to be you, no longer exists, it is no longer dynamic, or on the material plane - life continues. You perceive. You persist. You think. It makes zero sense, but the universe is under absolutely no obligation to explain itself to you, or make sense.

    1. Everything in Section Four unfortunately lacks the appropriate language, or terminology to sufficiently describe and so must be experienced by each person individually. Everyone is owed this. Sorry. No spoilers.
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      One of the interesting takeaways of depression for me is just how much conciousness is dependent on physicality lol. The brain is like if an LLM existed physically, rather than in software. Your… you is a direct result of the physical structure and anything that disrupts that, even subtly, will have profound effects on who you are.

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    My experiences with death has cured me of any atheist delusions. There’s a damn good reason they say, “there are no atheists in foxholes.” It’s not about whether you believe this or that to be real or not real - that is irrelevant - it’s about what matters in those horrible moments people experience true mortality before they go. It’s not pretty like they pretend it to be in the movies, and armchair philosophizing doesn’t mean squat to people then.

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      No offense, but “No atheists in foxholes” ONLY makes sense to religious people… why would an atheist pray to something he/she doesn’t believe in? Do Christians pray to Muhammad or one of the thousands of other religions in foxholes? Of course not, because they don’t believe in them… that’s the point. If someone is doing that, they’re at best agnostic.

      And for the record, I’ve had one of my daughters literally die in my arms, it’s a terrible experience, but it didn’t convert me to some religion to try and make sense out of.

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        No offense,

        None taken.

        but “No atheists in foxholes” ONLY makes sense to religious people

        I’m afraid not. I’m not religious at all - and it makes perfect sense to me.

        why would an atheist pray to something he/she doesn’t believe in?

        It’s very easy to convince yourself that you’ve chosen to believe this or that when life is comfortable. It’s peak individualism - and such delusions fall apart very fast when the trauma starts piling on. You don’t have to believe me - believe the people who wrote the CIA’s torture manuals.

        It’s called “regression” - if you were spoon-fed a certain religion as a child you will “regress” to that under extreme duress (amongst other, even worse, things). That’s why they say, “there are no atheists in foxholes.”

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          So you’re saying you’d pray to things you don’t believe in when confronted with something traumatic?

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              I guess it must be “going over my head”, because it makes no sense to me to pray to something that isn’t there, unless you at least think there’s at least a tiny chance there is… aka agnostic.

              I also wouldn’t pray to my toaster unless I thought at least there was the slightest chance it could hear me.

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                because it makes no sense

                So everything in your life “makes sense”? How did you accomplish that?

                I also wouldn’t pray to my toaster unless

                I also wouldn’t recommend praying to anything that comes with an on/off switch… though I am undecided about threatening them with banishment to a landfill.

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                  I never said everything in life makes sense, just that praying to something you don’t think is real doesn’t.

                  Obviously you believe in some form of higher power, so it makes sense that you would pray to it. But you wouldn’t pray to something you don’t at least think has a chance of existing, why would you think an atheist would?

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          Wow this is a stupid take. I was spoon fed Christianity, now I’m agnostic. I’ve experienced plenty of traumatic things and I haven’t found myself praying to God in any of those.

          Where did you get this is bs?

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            Where did you get this

            I guess you missed this part?

            You don’t have to believe me - believe the people who wrote the CIA’s torture manuals.

            I suppose you were too busy convincing yourself that losing at video games qualify as “traumatic…”

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              You don’t know me at all, dipshit. Congratulations for being the most insufferable Lemmy user I’ve ran into so far. I feel sorry for people that know you. That has to be traumatic.

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                You don’t know me at all

                I agree. And I’d prefer to keep it that way.

                most insufferable

                Considering how easy it was to trigger you I find your claim of any kind of actual life experience quite dubious.