What’s your real thoughts about Threema guys? Terms of Privacy & Security?
Well a non-free app is obviously disqualified as an ideal solution. It’s true that Threema has at least one advantage relative to Signal (not requiring a phone number), but I wouldn’t want to use it mostly because of this review: https://soatok.blog/2021/11/05/threema-three-strikes-youre-out/
Also because there’s at least one other messenger that shares that advantage over Signal, but can be used for free: Wire. I could be forgetting a downside of Wire though. Idk, I’ve looked into so many of these apps it’s hard to remember the pros and cons of each of them.
wire sold out.
Afraid I’m out of the loop here. Not that I was going to use Wire anyway, but I’m curious what you’re referring to?
fascinating. I’ve been looking for the articles (from 2019), but they seem to have scrubbed the web clean as they all lead to 404 now (including removing the statement on their own website, and on wikipedia), one of the remaining credible sources is from peter sunde: https://twitter.com/brokep/status/1194392575442067456
and this german post addressing the company in question: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/wire-messenger-zu-100-von-einer-us-holding-uebernommen/
i assume the mass exodus just about crashed their company. i mean, who in their right mind would move a privacy/encryption focused server/chat service to the US? it’s as if they didn’t know their consumer base at all. there also doesn’t seem to be any reproducible builds anymore, what you can download in the app store is different from what you compile?
Well don’t forget Session - it’s an implementation of Signal without requirements for a phone number.
I believe Session actually migrated away from the Signal protcol some time ago: https://getsession.org/session-protocol-explained
Thanks I missed that along the way… as they say it has “tradeoffs”.
Yeah. I really hate that they still link to the outdated whitepaper on their website
I have been using it with some friends who refuse to use XMPP. Seems to work reasonably well and there is a third party client that seems to be tolerated on the network: OpenMittsu. OpenMittsu works, but isn’t great to be honest.
Recently they open-sourced their client code (android and web, not sure about iOS), but uptake by 3rd party developers has been limited.
Bridging is also complicated by the fact that their API is for pay only, although a puppeteering gateway based on the OpenMittsu code would probably work.
Server side it is close-source and servers seem to be hosted in Germany I guess? Not 100% sure on the latter part.
Edit: The reason I insisted on Threema over Signal (only two choices they left me with cry) was that Threema does not require a phone number to work (but one can be optionally linked to an account).
Matrix would have been far superior, as would have been XMPP.
hosted in Germany.
Almost. It’s Switzerland.
