Hello, I’ve been looking into email providers. I’m not an activist, just a regular user concerned over privacy.

I used CTemplar in the past until it shut down. Had a cockli email and although it isn’t Google the privacy isn’t stellar either. I tried to get into Proton, but being unable to use Thunderbird on he free plan was a massive turn-off for me since I like switching easily between different accounts.

After a bit of searching the following came across for me as the best services: [free] Autistici, PARANOID, Disroot, RiseUp. [paid] Posteo, Elude.

Assuming I theoretically got invites for all the free services (they’re all reliant on manual approvation), which one would you recommend?

  • Landor Dragen@lemmy.ml
    2·
    1 year ago

    Proton Mail, Tutanota or Skiff would be my recommendations.

    Nowadays my daily e-mail provider is Skiff.

    Can’t link to Thunderbird but that’s the price to pay for E2EE. Personally I’m fine with that but I understand that my needs are different from every other person.

    • Abel@lemmy.nerdcore.socialOP
      0·
      1 year ago

      Proton retains your data definitively, and although it is encrypted, they’re the ones who generate your encryption key as well. If they want to act maliciously, they are totally able to. Also can’t register using a VPN or Tor without giving personable identifiable info. Tutanota has the second problem as well.

      Skiff collects the pages you visited before using their webmail - creepy:

      Automatic Data Collection. In order to protect you and our platform from malicious activity and to prevent fraud, we may collect certain information automatically when you use our Services, such as your Internet protocol (IP) address (temporarily), user settings, and Skiff-provided authentication cookies. We may also temporarily collect information regarding your use of our Services, such as pages that you visit before, during and after using our Services, the frequency and duration of your activities, and other information about how you use our Services.

      • Landor Dragen@lemmy.ml
        0·
        1 year ago

        Pages you visited in Skiff ecosystem.

        They don’t know you visited Lemmy before accessing Skiff. But they will know you visited Skiff Drive before you visited Skiff Mail.

            • Abel@lemmy.nerdcore.socialOP
              1·
              1 year ago

              They removed that from the ToS but before it was very much there. They still kept this:

              Use of Customer Materials.  In consideration of your use of the Services, you hereby grant to Skiff, its parents, subsidiaries, affiliates, licensees, designees, and successors and assigns a limited, non-exclusive right to use, copy, distribute and display Customer Materials (i) to provide the Services and related services to you and if applicable, Customer, and (ii) the right to sub-license and share any Customer Materials with other users authorized by you or Customer for use within the Services.‍

              “Customer Materials” means all information, data, content and other materials (including user content), in any form or medium, that is transmitted or otherwise provided by or on behalf of Customer or you through the Services or to Skiff in connection with Customer’s use of the Services, but excluding, for clarity, any Skiff intellectual property.