• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Yeah, because it couldn’t possibly be that Americans are opposed to genocide.

    For fuck’s sake, Pelosi. Witch hunts are supposed to be a Republican thing.

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      9 months ago

      wouldn’t be the first time Russia has done something like this, that said, how about we stop supporting genocide and it won’t matter

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        9 months ago

        The best propaganda in the world is the truth. I wouldn’t even be surprised if the Russians were signal boosting Palestinians in some way. Doesn’t mean we should keep supporting a genocide though. Israel fucked up.

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          They’re absolutely boosting Palestinians. Russia wants to prove to the world that Israel is carrying out a genocide, and that Israel/US are heavily leaning on international entities to delay any meaningful condemnation from bodies like the ICJ or UN. Russia wants to highlight the moral hypocrisy of the West, and prove that Palestinians are being exterminated

          This is not because Russia cares about human rights. Rather it is because they want to paint the United States/The West as obvious hypocrites with no moral standing. Which will enable Russia to commit larger atrocities in Ukraine without meaningful rebuke. After all, these same international agencies permitted the genocide in Gaza, who are they now to condemn Russia when they massacre an entire Ukrainian city? It also will provide cover for China’s invasion of Taiwan, and their further suppression of Uyghurs in NW China.

          Israel is certainly engaging in genocide against Palestinian. But this crime, and the US’ whitewashing of it, will be used by Russia/China as cover to carry out their own escalated human rights abuses. And by that time, the US will have lost its moral leadership in the world and Western international institutions will have similarly been shown to be utterly useless puppets of America. Which is all a very bad thing for the weak and non-nuclear peoples of the world

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      9 months ago

      While it’s all certainly Americans, and we don’t like genocides, she is correct in assuming that Putin wants Trump to win, and this would be an effective way to further that goal.

      Don’t forget Putin was KGB.

      I imagine it’s more through social media manipulation and misinformation than FSB funding, I suppose I could be wrong. By way of example, though, how many times have you heard that white phosphorous is banned, even though that’s not exactly true?

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        9 months ago

        FSB is using social media among other things. Active Measures is one of primary ways how they operated and they adapted it well to the Internet age.

        Have you thought how come that antivaxx people also have very pro Russia anti EU, anti UN anti NATO views?

        Covid was a great catalyst in spreading disinformation.

        Same thing with far right people in US and Europe, how come their views are mostly pro Russia and how come they greatly overlap with antivaxx?

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          9 months ago

          True. But the propaganda line doesn’t acknowledge the distinction, and just tries to spread the idea that the US does not care about international law, which is false.

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            9 months ago

            Ahhh yes. I had someone run that with landmines too. According to them we can’t get in compliance with international law until we de-mine the Korean DMZ…

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      9 months ago

      [sarcasm]

      That sounds like what a Russian propagandian would say.

      If that’s not a word, it should be a word. Lets also rename the continent to Propagandia while we are at it.

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      9 months ago

      Thank you, Flying Squid. I couldn’t agree more. The Trump-resemblance in attitude on her part has been disheartening. BTW, I tend to really like your comments. Have a good day.