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- world@lemmy.world
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- world@lemmy.world
An oil tanker is on fire in the Gulf of Aden, its operator says, after Houthis said they hit it with a missile.
US officials told the BBC’s US partner CBS the tanker was hit by an anti-ship ballistic missile and a naval ship was responding to its distress signal.
There were no injuries reported, the US officials said.
Houthi military spokesman Yaha Sarea said the group used “a number of appropriate naval missiles” and Friday’s strike was “direct”.
Yep, definitely. Before us the Middle East was a harmonious paradise.
Ugh these people again. Yes, it was about as good of a place as anywhere else outside of Europe and America.
People who know history and don’t have the racist presumption that only Westerners have moral agency?
Alright, I’m going to have to challenge that. Would you care to elaborate on how the Middle East, before American meddling, was as good as anywhere else outside of Europe and America?
America started meddling in The Middle East in the 50s, almost exactly after colonialism ended (using the term “ended” liberally). The pre-colonialism Middle East was mostly ruled by the Ottoman empire, which aside from their last years were bad but normal rulers. I seriously doubt the Middle East was a worse place to be than Russia, China.
“the Ottoman empire, which aside from their last years were bad but normal rulers.”
Holy fuck.
Are you going to stand by that statement? Because if so, I have a very long list of exceptional crimes by the Ottoman Empire.
Alright, it’s the early 20th century, just after the First World War. We have open slavery in the Arabian peninsula and North Africa, the Saudis have consolidated their rule by murdering the tribes that stood against them, Iran is playing coup musical chairs, the first Zionist and anti-Zionist massacres in Palestine have begun, Turkiye is musing turning on the Kurds after having genocided some Armenians previously, Libya is being genocided by the Italians, Egypt is being ruled by an autocratic king, Jordan is embroiled in sectarian conflict that the British are quietly ignoring, and Syria is being played divide-and-conquer style by the French.
Yeah, I’d take the Russian civil war and early Soviets, or China’s warlord era over that.
You… Just ignored what I said about the Ottomans and keep bringing up colonial-era examples. You know what I don’t care enough about this conversation.
I literally asked if you were willing to stand by your claim about the Ottomans and stated a willingness to list their exceptional brutality in MENA.
Also, it’s cute that you think the Ottoman-era was ‘pre’ colonialism. I guess it’s only colonialism if it comes from Western Europe, otherwise it’s just sparkling liberation.
Clearly, you don’t know enough to have warranted starting it.