People at Bonn protesting against Nazi cunts singing Ode to Joy

  • Deceptichum@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Yeah that’s one of those platitudes that sounds nice but is not actually backed up by any science.

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      9 months ago

      Kind of obvious how it works isn’t it? You become hateful as you fight evil, and you become more and more accepting of cruelty as long as it’s to the enemy. Happens in wars all the time.

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        9 months ago

        Like I said it sounds plausible and logical, but that doesn’t actually translate to being true.

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          9 months ago

          Actually, it does. Since the AFD had more voters in the eastern states of Germany (that was DDR in the past) bigotry against people from eastern Germany have increased again. It was never completely gone, but now you find people openly speculating people from eastern Germany are less intelligent, “inbreds”, etc. And that comes a lot from supposedly anti-fascist leftists.

          A lot of people just want violence or don’t like people in general or have something else wrong with them and believe slapping an “anti-fascist” label on their violence somehow makes it good violence. Other ways do work and they are a better choice. Insulting, being cruel and being violent against people should never be your go-to idea and you certainly shouldn’t be trying to shame people into being violent.

          Many AFD voters can be turned in better ways, instead of making them fear violence and insults.

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              9 months ago

              You can’t really be this silly. You can’t ethically study this shit, it would need two groups, a control group that doesn’t get desensitized by the horrible things the other group does to people. But you can personally observe the changes in people of places of authority and stress over time. There’s maybe a few studies in the past, like the Stanford one, Milgram I think, that ethicists discourage.

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                9 months ago

                The Stanford prison experiment was faked mate. Guards were told to act cruel and the results were pre-written.

                Biological truths such as ‘x causes y in humans’ needs to be backed up by some very serious science, a few choice studies from the 60s barely scratch the surface of that. Because there are a million influencing factors in each and everyone’s life that can drastically change the way we respond to events.

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                    9 months ago

                    Because I don’t believe simplistic statements about human behaviour as true because they sound good?

                    If that makes me a wanker, sure whatever floats your boat mate.