• TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Ukraine isn’t fighting “crush Russia” or “consolidate power,” they are fighting to exist as a nation. They are fighting to not be part of Russia, and if you claim Russia doesn’t consolidate wealth into a small few while sacrificing their poor as cannon fodder, you’re unabashedly lying.

    Now, do Western nations take advantage of this to severely weaken with no personal loss of life or territory? Absolutely. But just because it benefits the West doesn’t mean it doesn’t also benefit Ukraine.

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      10 months ago

      Ukrainian nationalism as a concept is something that has always been a Kyiv-centered idea. This is true stretching back to the Russian Revolution, as well. The concept of Ukraine as an independent state has always been Kyiv’s idea.

      Tell me you don’t understand Russian history without telling me you don’t understand Russian history.

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      10 months ago

      They are hopped up on nationalism, which is encouraged by the Western warmongers for their own benefit.

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        10 months ago

        You’re right they should just let Russia roll in, murder their population and take their land. #Diplomacy

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          10 months ago

          Russia wouldn’t be rolling in if NATO didn’t decide to turn Ukraine in to the worlds most Nazified hand-puppet. Y’know, to encircle and exterminate them, in direct breach of the Minsk Accords.

          tl;dr Occupied Turtle Island being the same oathbreaking settler trash they’ve been for the last 400 years started this. It could be ended just as easy; but oathbreaking settler trash can’t abide that!

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            What part of which Minsk accords were violated by who? A “direct violation” should be easy to cite. The text of either accord is short as well.

            Also, NATO did not sign the accords so already your claim is weird.