• thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    Is the measurement that they’re getting the results, or is it that they aren’t working extra hours? “Getting the results from the majority of the people the majority of the time” is exactly how I’d expect an executive to handwave employees burning out due to the kind of environment we’re talking about. Not everybody is going to manifest visible problems at the same time, so it will just look like a handful “not working out” every once in awhile, which is to be expected.

    It could describe a healthy environment equally well… But my point is just that your formulation (“Results from the majority of the people the majority of the time”) doesn’t seem to me to have the ability to distinguish between a healthy and a toxic environment.

    • BallShapedMan@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      The phrase applies to negative results not positive ones because the rest of the phrase is it’s not the people it’s the system which implies a problem not a good result. Going through all the details of the system is more than I’m willing to type. If you’d like to know more these are a few of my favorite resources.

      Multipliers by Liz Wiseman

      Beyond Command and Control by John Seddon

      First Break All the Rules by Marcus Buckingham

      The Effective Manager by Mark Horstman

      Dare to Lead by Brene Brown

      The Effective Executive by Peter F. Drucker

      You’re Not Listening by Kate Murphy

      Four Thousand Weeks by Oliver Burkeman