• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    If they didn’t hold the capital hostage from the doers of the world, laborers, as is the point of capitalism, it would be a lot easier.

    Instead the do nothing capitalists keep the vast majority of the value generated, and provide just enough for the people that made it to subsist. It’s a shame so many they would never let within 100 feet of their clubs, towers, or compounds defend their con.

    Not surprising though, we’re propagandized through the media they own and the curriculum they influence to deify the con-game that is capitalism. We were conquered by the contemporaries of the traveling snake oil salesmen of old.

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      10 months ago

      Sorry what’s your alternative? I’m guessing communism?

      In that system how do you efficiently allocate capital? Do you use a command economy?

      I’m not deifying anything, it just seems that capitalism is the most efficient economic system we can come up with. And combined with regulation seems to produce pretty good results, see most of the better parts of Europe for example

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        10 months ago

        A system which stores vast percentage of capital inert in the hands of a few entitled parasitic rapists is not “efficient”.

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          10 months ago

          Do you want to maybe suggest something practical? I’m not particularly interested in the relentless “capitalists are evil” meme. I am interested in hearing about alternatives with merit Also inert? Are these people really sitting on cash? Or are they investing in various parts of the economy?

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            10 months ago

            t a x t h e r i c h At, say, 90% above 2m earnings and also bring in a generous estate tax - one which would trigger above some large value, say 10m$ so that a lucky rando with a house isn’t hit, but someone with 9 digit net worth is.

            And yes, they do sit on a ton of this cash. Buying yachts, flipping artworks and building bunkers in New Zealand aren’t exactly productive investments. And yes, a large amount gets invested here and there but it would still be better to deconcentrate this.

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              10 months ago

              You want to tax existing assets? How on earth is that supposed to work? You just make people liquidate assets to pay a tax? The idea of taxing an unrealised gain is ridiculous

              For the record he is paying 200M in tax on that income. Though I agree 20% is probably too low here, that’s up to your govt to fix and isn’t a failure of capitalism but of the specific implementation

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                10 months ago

                Yes, I would make people sell off excess property to pay taxes, why not? It would take some fine tuning of course byt how else are you willing to fight the wealth gap?

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                  10 months ago

                  I don’t really care if there is a wealth gap. Even though I’m definitely on the lower income side

                  What I think we should focus on instead is making sure everyone’s base line needs are met. So healthcare (including dental), housing, food, etc. And I don’t think you need to tax wealth to do it, rather you’d be better off closing off issues in the current tax system and increasing taxes in the upper brackets For the lower tax brackets you could even implement a negative tax rate to achieve it without having to resort to a blanket system like UBI

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        Sorry what’s your alternative? I’m guessing communism?

        capitalism is the most efficient economic system we can come up with

        “Everything I don’t like is communism.” There’s always one of you morons in every thread. I’m sure this comment will change everyone’s mind.

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          10 months ago

          By all means suggest something else. It feels like 90% of the time people that are anti capitalism either suggest communism or don’t understand that they just want capitalism with tighter regulation What’s your suggestion?