As the world grapples with the existential crisis of climate change, environmental activists want President Joe Biden to phase out the oil industry, and Republicans argue he’s already doing that. Meanwhile, the surprising reality is the United States is pumping oil at a blistering pace and is on track to produce more oil than any country has in history.

The United States is set to produce a global record of 13.3 million barrels per day of crude and condensate during the fourth quarter of this year, according to a report published Tuesday by S&P Global Commodity Insights.

Last month, weekly US oil production hit 13.2 million barrels per day, according to the US Energy Information Administration. That’s just above the Donald Trump-era record of 13.1 million set in early 2020 just before the Covid-19 crisis sent output and prices crashing.

That’s been helping to keep a lid on crude and gasoline prices.

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      There was a hot minute where the propagandist narrative was that we needed to pump more oil to achieve “energy independence” despite the US already exporting, since that’s where the money was made

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      Only sometimes?

      I can’t wait to get some kind of marketable skill so I can get the fuck out of this corporatized shithole sorry excuse of a country “for the people.”

      Yeah, “for the people” to work forever for an abusive master.

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    only ~9% of passenger cars in the US are EVs. so, as much as people may wish that oil production would suddenly just stop, it’ll be around as long as demand is, and unless you want to pay $5+/gallon again while hearing people screech “ThAnkS BidEN!11!!!”, well, this is what you get.

    don’t blame him, blame people buying ICEs and EV manufacturers charging so much for them.

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        Calculate the difference in what it costs to maintain the highway system and what is brought in by the gas tax, and then charge that amount of money to every employer but offer them a tax credit that offsets this new tax if they can prove their Worker Works from home at least 90% of the time, and there will be Financial incentives for employees to report their employers for violating this rule

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        yes, there are things congress could do to greatly improve the situation, but that takes time. and, ya know, congress not wasting all their time trying to expel and elect another speaker or trying to distract the country from the Trump show with their own Biden revenge impeachment and actually doing their jobs.

        as a side note, tax rebates are not very helpful when people need to wait until the end of the year (or the middle of the next) for their savings. why not instant tax rebates/saving at the time of purchase?

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          I believe that’s happening in 2024

          I had my state tax rebate immediately applied to my purchase this year (actually somewhat annoying because I found out too late to adjust my loan and would have preferred borrowing Less rather than getting part of my down payment back)

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        The air in my area was so clean during that first month of covid. Traffic would also be a lot better for blue collar people if all the office workers weren’t fighting them for road space.

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          in NYC, New York Harbor and the East and Hudson Rivers got so clean that Humpback whales came swimming up the rivers again for the first time in almost a century. it was awesome!

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      Oil production will not stop until we have alternatives to other items oils helps produce. I.e. plastics, latex, etc.

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        this is a more specific extension of what i was talking about, but that amount of oil used for that dwarfs in comparison to the amount burned as fule and isn’t nearly as destructive to the environment.

        but you’re not wrong.

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      Personal passenger EVs won’t do much to dent global climate change. Gotta build mass transit and rail shipping, and clean up the electricity grid.

      Carnival Cruises (63 ships) emits as much as 300,000,000 cars, and electricity generation and shipping are even more insane. All transportation combined is only 27% of our emissions. And EVs still need a lot of oil for tires and asphalt.

      EVs are definitely better than ICE, especially for local air quality, but for global climate they’re like deleting a text file to clear up hard drive space, instead of looking at the 400GB rip of LOTR.

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        No one single thing is gonna make the difference. It’s really the combination of everything together sustained overtime. I mean, you’re not wrong, but it’s really everything working together that’s gonna be the trick.

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          I agree. My bad I took your comment as that being the only thing we need to do. Apologies

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            Yeah, no, it’s fine. I was just speaking within the context of why ramping up oil production in the US is important to the administration, for the sake of offsetting increasing costs from organizations, such as OPEC. If you recall, people in this country have been screaming about gas prices, and blaming Biden for it. Well, it shouldn’t be a surprise that he actually did something about it.

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              Ah nah sorry I don’t recall. I’ve intentionally cut myself off the news and most social media. It’s made me happier but it can bite me in the ass, like in this thread 😅

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                oh, well, now you have some context. I hope it makes more sense to you now ;)

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          This is my argument for restricting supply enough to increase prices. Higher prices are incentive for every usage to find alternatives. Most of the alternatives do already exist but will never be adopted when fossil fuel solutions are cheaper

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            Yep. As much as individuals may care, and corporations may give lip service to the environment, large scale usage patterns are still dictated by economics.

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          There’s better and worse ways to go out.

          Surrounded by loved ones in a comfy bed and high on drugs? Or in twisted shrieking agony because a natural disaster collapsed your house on top of you? Or being vaporized during the nuclear war caused by the tropics becoming uninhabitable?

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            Luckily most countries in the tropics are not nuclear powers. We can exploit them at will and condemn their future without any threat of reprisals. /s obviously

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              And by “we,” you mean the billionaires like Steve Huffman (spez) that are setting themselves up to be the new feudal lords.

              And no “/s” for me.

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            I don’t know. Dying instantly by being vaporized in a nuclear blast doesn’t sound so bad, although the absolute terror immediately proceeding, it probably would suck. As a New Yorker, I’d probably do something stupid like trying to hide in a subway tunnel, so I wouldn’t be vaporized instantly, but rather die in the immediate aftermath of horrible radiation poisoning, or be turned into a ghoul and live forever looking like beef jerky.

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              Right, much worse would be close enough to the blast to be horribly burned but not close enough to die instantly.

              Just hang on for hours or days.

              But everybody dies, right? No big deal! 🫠

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      people may wish that oil production would suddenly just stop

      Given the massive size of related industries and dependencies, “sudden” was never on the table. However we should be ramping down. The industry should already know that long term investments such as new pipelines will never pay off.

      Gasoline/oil should be getting more expensive, or we’re doing it wrong. The best incentive to figuring out how to switch to options kinder to our environment, is higher prices with the promise of more increases. That doesn’t only apply to gasoline/oil, but heating oil, jet fuel, deisel for farming, construction and heavy trucks, marine deisel, plastics of all types, etc. Holding these prices low may help the economy in the short term but means we’re not going to switch to better choices and the impact will be more serious when it finally hits

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    How else are we supposed to save the planet from the horrors of green energy and renewable resources

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      No, this is actually a good thing for the environment because this way we’ll hit ‘peak oil’ sooner and the world will be forced to look for energy elsewhere.

      /S

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    "Last month, weekly US oil production hit 13.2 million barrels per day, according to the US Energy Information Administration. That’s just above the Donald Trump-era record of 13.1 million set in early 2020 just before the Covid-19 crisis sent output and prices crashing. "

    Sounds like a lot… until you realize we burn over 20 million barrels per day, and the 13 million figure isn’t all reserved for domestic use, just under 10 million per day is exported.

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-crude-output-rise-by-less-than-previously-forecast-2023-eia-2023-11-07/

    https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=727&t=6

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      What about US oil consumption - production is one thing, but is it displacing imports, or really part of higher consumption?

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        We’re producing 13.2 million a day, exporting 9.5 million a day, but burning 20.1 million a day.

        13.2 - 9.5 = 3.7 - 20.1 = -16.4 per day in the hole. Importing makes up the difference.

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            Because the oil industry is not nationalized, each oil company does what they think is best for their own bottom line, and if they can make more money by exporting it, they do.

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      That was never intended to be true, same with the most progressive president line. They just know that no one can call him out on it because they’ll just be drowned out by people who are terrified of Trump.

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        Reasoning: “Oh you don’t like something Biden did? WHY DO YOU WANT TRUMP IN OFFICE, I’M ENTITLED TO DEMAND YOUR VOTE!!!1”

        Then down votes to complete the flourish.

        It’s intellectually empty but extremely effective at causing me to dislike people who could otherwise be allies. I’ve never seen anything quite like it.

        I wish lemmy could understand we don’t have to be a hivemind in order to be effective.

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      What should he be doing instead? If he somehow had the legal authority to make companies cut production in the US, gas prices would increase drastically, the price of everything made with oil or transported with oil (which is basically everything) would spike, and consumption wouldn’t even go down much.

      What needs to happen is to have an alternative to oil first, and Biden’s infrastructure bill was a big step in that direction, at least compared to every other president before him.

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        If he somehow had the legal authority to make companies cut production in the US

        Biden approved more drilling on public lands than Trump did. So how about not do that.

        gas prices would increase drastically,

        BP just decided to discover a newfound cautious streak about the red sea that, wouldn’t you just know it, caused the price of oil to go up. Oh darn.

        the price of everything made with oil or transported with oil (which is basically everything) would spike, and consumption wouldn’t even go down much.

        Oh yeah, it’s great that this hasn’t happened fucking already. The price of fucking everything but an hour’s wages has gone up. Or in the language of centrist Biden supporters, “the economy is doing great!”

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      The US is the world’s largest exporter of oil. There’s no “stocking up”

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            That’s literally stocking up dumb dumb. Nazis are pretty good at logistics, did you miss that class?

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              We already have the strategic oil reserve. “Stocking” implies that we are currently building up our surplus beyond past levels, which is not happening

              Hilariously enough I worked in logistics for years.

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    Burning the world so that some random bums can be the richest man in their town of 10,000 people.

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    I watched a TED Talk in 2008 that said the US is the Saudi Arabia of nega-barrels, and we could build efficiencies like lighter cars that would reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

    Instead we fracked our way to being the Saudi Arabia of normal oil and Saudi Arabia bought golf. I feel like Al Gore got monkey paw’d.