Israel recognises gay marriage officially, being gay is strictly illegal in all Arab countries. Debate me if you want but if you had to choose any street corner in the middle east to announce your coming out publicly, you’d be a moron if you tried it anywhere other than Israel.
Nope. But also not okay with genocide.
Trying to make this incredibly complex situation a one issue thing is really simple thinking.
Israel is the only country in the middle east that offers some degree of safety for people who are different. Most of the people in Israel are from other parts of the middle east where they were actively hunted for being not Arab. Despite this there are plenty of Arabs living in Israel who are not persecuted for being Arab. The reason Gaza doesn’t have a Jewish population is because it became unsafe for Jews to live there. Despite this, Israel kept supplying fuel, food and water until recently.
So who’s committing genocide?
Israel
You either didn’t watch the anti zionists jews getting attacked by Israel police or you choose to ignore them
What were anti-zionists doing in Israel?
It doesn’t matter, you said everybody was same in Israel but those jews gotten attacked for being against the massacre of Palestinian civilians
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Anyone who supports Israel in the current conflict is okay with people being executed for … checking my notes here … uh, hang on, this can’t be right … um, being born in Palestine? Oof, that seems bad.
So if your neighbour came into your house and murdered your child, you’d what? Give them your house and live on the street?
Your hypothetical has about as much to do with the Israel Palestine conflict as … 2 things that don’t have anything to do with each other.
I don’t mistreat my neighbors so I’m not really worried about your hypothetical ever being an issue.
Yeah - it’s undoubtedly a good thing that Israel doesn’t execute people for being gay.
Since with the way they do things, they wouldn’t just execute gay people. They’d execute anyone who happens to live anywhere in the vicinity of a gay person. And then blame it on the gay person.
And you’d defend them.
What are they supposed to do? Start an amnesty international letter writing campaign? Please free our people Hamas 🙏
Ah yes, those are the only two options.
Don’t get me wrong I think Israel’s response is terrible, but it wouldn’t have happened at all without Hamas kidnapping or killing a whole lot of innocent civilians.
It wouldn’t have happened if Israel weren’t looking for an excuse to follow their myopic bloodlust.
I’m gay but I still don’t think homophobes should be executed en masse
The fact that OP doesn’t agree with that is really disturbing.
I’m not really in favour of indiscriminate airstrikes, but it wasn’t exactly unprovoked. What would you do in Israel’s situation?
So now you’re trying to change the topic entirely. Is this just a gish-gallop attempt to justify you being okay with supporting Israel murdering thousands of civilians?
I’m just asking what you’d do in that situation?
Turn the other cheek, but we all know how things went the last time someone told you that
So your advice is something along the lines of “lol, suck it up k##e”?
Yeah, that about sums it up. It’s plainly evident how ‘eye for an eye’ works out. I get it though, you’re too cowardly to ever make an honest attempt at pursuing peace.
Mate, I have absolutely no stake in this war at all. It’s just my unbiased observation. But if someone I cared about was killed, I would loose my shit too. Anyone who says they wouldn’t retaliate clearly doesn’t have children.
(Bashes child’s head in)
“Nah it’s alright, he was homophobic!”
-OP
You sound like someone with no moral compass. “Majority of Arabs wants us death, so let all Arabs die” - that’s your statement.
There’s no reason to argue with you because you’re not one to be reasoned with.
You’re just laughable in my opinion, not that my opinion matters to you. I suppose.
Good luck with your bait post though!
Hamas is the official elected government of Gaza.
Hamas invaded Israel and committed horrific war crimes.
Hamas now claims that they are being victimised and just want to be left to their own business.
Israel could easily flatten both the Gaza Strip and the west bank if they choose to do so. Why is it that they’ve only been loosing their shit when their own children are murdered in cold blood?
They have chosen to do so. Satellite imagery shows that more than 50% of all structures in Gaza are damaged or destroyed. At least 15000 civilians have been killed. An unknown number are wounded, or buried under the rubble. It is a clear end phase of the ongoing ethnic cleansing that has been settled policy in Israel for decades.
Hamas lacks the resources to enact such rapid cleansing on the Jewish population as they don’t have any serious military that can face off against the IDF, even without unrestricted US aid. If they did have those resources I have no doubt they would choose to do exactly what the IDF is currently doing, possibly using various settler attacks on Palestinians as justification.
Israel is committing genocide, Hamas would like to commit genocide. Stop picking teams when both teams are filling the scoreboard with atrocities. The people who deserve amplification are the Israeli and Palestinian civilians threatened by the activities of the military factions on both sides.
So which side can I support in this conflict if I’m not OK with human rights violations?
Neither side. It’s messed up.
From a purely materialistic pov, it’s a decision regarding the quantity vs the quality of benefits.
Because that’s what it’s all about at the global level, benefits. It’s about exploiting a situation as best one can to reap either the most or the best benefits possible.The side that doesn’t build military bases under children’s hospitals and then goad their neighbour by kidnapping their citizens and decapitating their babies?
What a false dichotomy. No one likes Hamas. That doesn’t meant the people living in Gaza are responsible for what Hamas does. Are you responsible for all the shit your government does? If someone, on behalf of the state in the country where you live, where to commit a human right’s violation, should we also bomb your house then?
If my government started kidnapping and murder, i would 100% start rioting.
You didn’t answer my question. If agents of your government violated human rights, should another country bomb your house then?
I want to bomb his house. Fuck this guy.
I wouldn’t be happy about it, but if that government used the roof of my house to fire rockets from I’d get it.
So every Palestinian who has died from Israeli attacks had rockets in their roofs? You’re full of shit
Better start then. And it almost doesn’t matter which country you’re from.
Anyone who doesn’t support Russia is ok with black people being murdered by cops.
It looks like we’re having a saying stupid things contest, so that’s my entry.
Does Ukraine have a problem with institutionalised racial violence?
This is the most ridiculously western take…
I’m bi trans and Arab and I stand with Palestine against the Israeli genocide and against Hamas’ Islamist terrorism.
The entire Arab world sucks to be queer in (literally why I emigrated), but that’s not what any of this is about?
Also I know you might find this hard to believe but LGBT Palestinians exist.
Openly?
If the answer is “no” do you think they deserve to die?
Are you real? I used to avoid downvoting anything but this, i have no words. If this is real you are…#$&@, and if it is a joke…f***.
If you want to know which country to not support, look at how they treat the most vulnerable in society. I could have gone with female, Christian, atheist, African, or any other minority.
That’s very far fetched. I believe most genocides in human history were committed against societies that did not allow same sex marriage. Maybe even all.
Not pro-Palestine, just anti-Israel.
Because?
Because if Israel was actually Good they wouldn’t have stooped to Hamas’ level
Because?
So what you’re claiming is that the only populations in the world that can be supported are those who are pro-LGBT?
The plight of Tibetans and Uighurs, gotta ignore those. The horrific conditions of the people of North Korea that their government is continually subjecting them to, who cares about that, right?
Remember folks: don’t fall for the rage bait
You know I came to lemmy to get away from the right wing shitposters on reddit but it seems they are already here too.
Whelp, guess its time to uninstall the internet
