• dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      11 months ago

      Why do you think that China’s per capita carbon footprint is higher? I’ll give you a hint: it rhymes with “Manufacturing all of the toys and treats that Capitalism is selling”. But also yes, China is capitalist. They weren’t really ever communist by definition. Just like how North Korea isn’t a democracy, despite calling themselves one.

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        11 months ago

        I think it’s slightly insulting towards chinese people to think as you imply that they’re unthinking animals who are completely guided by what the west does. They are smart human beings just like everyone else (or smarter if you believe some IQ studies), so they should be able to make responsible decisions.

        And as I point out in another reply, they seem to be in process of making good decisions right now. This has a good chance of absolving their guilt if they keep progressing like that.

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      11 months ago

      Rest of the world moves their dirty manufacturing over to China

      Rest of the world: “How can you pollute like this?”

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        11 months ago

        That was indeed a mistake in many levels. Nevertheless, China is responsible of China’s pollution output, nobody else. Unlike you seem to imply, the chinese are not unthinking animals, but regular people – with even higher than average IQ compared to west according to some studies. They were perfectly capable of making good decisions instead of bad ones.

        And in fact, they seem to be in the process of making such good decisions now. The Economist believes that their CO2 levels will peak this year and start to go down in the near future due to China’s investments in clean energy.

        https://www.economist.com/china/2023/11/27/will-china-save-the-planet-or-destroy-it