President Biden has announced a plan to “strengthen its Lead and Copper Rule that would require water systems to replace lead service lines within 10 years."

The Biden administration has announced a proposal to “strengthen its Lead and Copper Rule that would require water systems to replace lead service lines within 10 years,” the White House said in a statement on Thursday.

According to the White House, more than 9.2 million American households connect to water through lead pipes and lead service lines and, due to “decades of inequitable infrastructure development and underinvestment,” many Americans are at risk of lead exposure.

“There is no safe level of exposure to lead, particularly for children, and eliminating lead exposure from the air, water, and homes is a crucial component of the Biden-Harris Administration’s historic commitment to advancing environmental justice,” the Biden administration said.

    • DarkGamer@kbin.social
      583·
      1 year ago

      I’ve long wondered if lead exposure accounts for their behaviors over the past couple decades. Lead that accumulates in the bones over one’s lifetime leaches out into the bloodstream when one becomes elderly, like calcium does with osteoporosis. Cognitive issues and rage are associated with lead exposure.

      • CADmonkey@lemmy.world
        26·
        1 year ago

        I’ve long wondered if lead exposure accounts for their behaviors over the past couple decades.

        That’s exactly what has happened.

        Imagine, if you will, a country that has a lot of land area, which uses personal ground transport to grt around. Imagine if, for decades, those personal transport machines used large, ineffcient engines that ran on a fuel that caused aerosolized lead to be blown into the atmosphere at a staggering rate?

          • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
            4·
            11 months ago

            Also more recently, people who will cycle 1000 rounds of cheap ammo through sixteen different guns as a hobby and then spread that lead contamination all through their car and home, and they’ll do this every week for years.

            Shooting as a hobby isn’t new, but the volume and frequency people are doing it has definitely gone way up in some parts of the US in the past 30 years.

            • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
              1·
              11 months ago

              I remember watching a grand thumb (gun nut YouTuber) video where he found out about the lead poisoning and started wearing an N95 mask at the range.

              He switched to lead free ammo IIRC. His buddies made fun of him.

        • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
          8·
          11 months ago

          Imagine, if you will, a three by seven inch wooden frame – a frame that’s a gateway to a world of imagination. Wipe your mind on the welcome mat. You’re about to enter…

          The Scary Door.

      • Jay@lemmy.caEnglish
        151·
        1 year ago

        I’m not sure about that, I’ve had lead poisoning for thirty years and I’m still not stupid enough to support those assholes.

      • Got_Bent@lemmy.world
        2·
        11 months ago

        I worry about this a little bit for myself.

        I was just shy of twenty years old when leaded gas sales ended in California.

        So I definitely grew up with lots of exposure. Hope it doesn’t dement me out in my final couple of decades.

      • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
        1·
        11 months ago

        I worked on a community gardening project in the city when I was in grad school. We had an ordinary urban residential lot and wanted to plant a community vegetable garden.

        The soil was so incredibly contaminated with lead from 70 years old leaded gasoline that we had to scrape off the top 6 ft of topsoil and send it to a toxic waste dump, and the replace all of that. Then we built raised garden beds to mitigate lead uptake in the plants.

        Most cities in the world are still heavily contaminated and lead will never go away.

    • notannpc@lemmy.world
      12·
      1 year ago

      Came here to say this. I look forward to whatever their excuse is to not solve the toxic drinking water problem. And likely immediately spend more on DoD or cut taxes to the rich.

    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
      93·
      11 months ago

      It’s funny, because the hexbears basically have the same “Biden bad” reaction. Almost like there’s a weird amount of ideological overlap.

      • Cowbee@lemm.ee
        22·
        11 months ago

        Not a hexbear, but the leftist “Biden bad” narrative wouldn’t demonize investing in infrastructure, they would call out shit like unconditional support for Israel or failing to meaningfully improve social safety nets via Medicare for All, or other such measures. Biden is a Liberal, at the end of the day, and that’s not going to please any leftist except by not being a fascist.

  • DarkGamer@kbin.social
    631·
    1 year ago

    Huzzah! Another great move by the Biden administration that will probably be overlooked by most commenters, like his labor board appointments that led to the recent union resurgence were.

      • pimento64@sopuli.xyz
        601·
        1 year ago

        Do you do literally anything besides endless serial shitposting about how much you hate Joe Biden? It’s incessant. Get a grip, fucking weirdo.

          • Serinus@lemmy.world
            362·
            1 year ago

            He’s doing a great job. He’s just too fucking old to go another four years.

            But I’m certainly not going to pass on Biden to vote for a dumbass tyrant that’s just about as old.

            I’ll look for someone to vote for in the primary, if there is one.

      • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
        8·
        1 year ago

        I’m afraid your opinion of the bare minimum is not the universal definition of it. You shouldn’t be surprised when people differ with you on that.

        When everything’s below the bare minimum, it becomes a meaningless metric. You’ll still have to rank the available options, and there can still be a huge difference between those options.

      • MasterBlaster@lemmy.world
        102·
        1 year ago

        (I copied one of my comments verbatim here to save time)

        Oh, yeah. He hasn’t kept any promises. None at all.

        You don’t have to like him or his goals, but please refrain from lying about him. It’s bad form.

  • BigMacHole@lemm.ee
    538·
    1 year ago

    I would rather DRINK LEAD then to not be allowed to call a black person the N WORD! I’m a NOT RACIST REPUBLICAN!

  • WashedOver@lemmy.ca
    43·
    1 year ago

    Those that purposely destroyed the water systems with cuts in Flint Michigan should have been quartered in a public square.

    Sadly in reality they probably received bonuses and perks.

    • skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de
      21·
      1 year ago

      Those that caused the switchover to Flint River water that resulted in the disaster surfacing definitely should be drawn and quartered, no question. Snyder and his city managers put all this nonsense in motion and should be charged with crimes against humanity.

      However, it’s also a systemic, deeper problem in the US. Flint’s pipes didn’t suddenly become terrible overnight. The entire water system was in disrepair for decades. The only reason it didn’t surface sooner was they were regulating the water going through it to hold the demons at bay. Even when it was working, pre-disaster, the water was safe to drink, but horrible from a drinking water perspective.

      The whole system was a giant leaking piece of junk that basically kept working due to positive pressure pushing contaminants out of the leaks, and the pH level being maintained so the old pipes wouldn’t start leeching into the water. That a GM engine plant had to switch water sources because the water was damaging the engine construction is just mind-blowing. Human bodies are vastly more delicate than engines.

      Flint’s not the only one either, many American cities with aging water infrastructure that wasn’t properly maintained all have/had similar problems.

      We are such a short-sighted country that seems to so quickly forget that our infrastructure requires constant maintenance and updates. I really think the generation that got to live among all the New Deal and post WWII infrastructure just thought they lived in a magic time where all this stuff just exists forever, rather than realizing it takes stewardship to keep things “the way they are”. Now, we on the back end, reap the rewards of everything falling apart at the same time, faster than we can fix it.

      • KnightontheSun@lemmy.world
        9·
        1 year ago

        We are such a short-sighted country

        We see about as far as the next quarter’s profits. That seems to be the marker. Apparently, the future isn’t really worth looking at past that.

    • FanciestPants@lemmy.world
      7·
      11 months ago

      A friend of mine was starting into a tirade a while back about how terrible it is that all water pipe installed in houses today is plastic even though we know BPAs are killing people. I suggested that they might be better than lead pipe. We still high five from time to time.

    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
      6·
      1 year ago

      This is one of those times I’m like why are mass shootings always schools and bars and not assholes like the people responsible for this

      • WashedOver@lemmy.ca
        1·
        1 year ago

        Wasn’t it a theme there for awhile to go Postal? I can’t recall if that was about co-workers, management, the general public or all of the above?

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      I know people were charged for their involvement in the crisis but from what I can tell they got out of the charges. I think there may be a case that is still pending, though

    • MasterBlaster@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 year ago

      I linked an article in one of my comments that describes the criminal cases. They did not get off scot free as of 2021.

  • 7Sea_Sailor@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    6825·
    1 year ago

    Just another day on which I as a European am absolutely shocked how shit the quality of life in the US is.

    • EatYouWell@lemmy.world
      663·
      1 year ago

      Europe has lead pipes as well, buddy.

      They’re perfectly safe as long as idiots don’t change the water supply to one that’s more acidic without buffering the pH.

      Hell, England and Wales have nearly 3x more than the entire US.

      • bluGill@kbin.social
        231·
        1 year ago

        That isn’t perfectly safe. That is normally safe, but once in a while something will go wrong and they become unsafe.

        • Sylvartas@lemmy.world
          1·
          11 months ago

          If it goes wrong long enough after the pipes have been in service it’s barely an issue iirc because there is now a coat of corroded lead inside the pipes that does not cause lead poisoning

      • crystal@feddit.de
        23·
        1 year ago

        When people say europe they usually aren’t thinking of countries such as Russia, Turkey, or the UK.

    • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
      131·
      1 year ago

      It’s worth noting that 9.2 million homes is an extremely small percentage of American homes and I’d say almost all of them are extremely rural homes or dying rural towns that just need relocated. Think of North Dakota as akin to the Siberian oblasts or northern Finland, neither get a lot of infrastructure care because no almost one is there. This is the Biden admin trying to look out for the little guy that’s been ignored the last century

        • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
          1·
          11 months ago

          Agreed, the ISPs pissed away the billions they got in the early 2000s. It’s time to pony up another few billion but let the military do the work this time then hand the actually completed project to gouvernement ran ISPs.

          My dad is still paying frontier like $80 a month for 4mbps that doesn’t work half the time

          • EatYouWell@lemmy.world
            1·
            11 months ago

            Eh, it doesn’t need to be installed by the military, but it definitely needs to be a public works project.

            And if the telecoms push back, it’s time to start an audit on where that tax money went.

            But yeah, AT&T’s fiber trunk line runs 50ft from my mom’s front door, but they wont even put a dsl relay out there (it’s been 2 years away for the past 20 years)

            • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
              1·
              11 months ago

              I only say the military because they’re answerable to the executive branch, the public ISPs are beholden only to shareholders who do not have the best interests of the public in mind. If given the opportunity the ISPs will squander it again and there’s nothing an after the fact audit will do about it, the military will at least complete the job even if it takes longer and is slightly over budget.

              And by military I mostly mean army Corp of engineers and whichever division wants to offer up its IT ops crew for the setup

    • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      AT&T after taking my tax money: “hahahahahahahahahahahahahah no”

  • MNByChoice@midwest.social
    352·
    1 year ago

    This is great. 10 years seems long, but it is a huge project. Glad it will be started soon.

    Edit: Aw shit. This is only a proposal. At least we are talking about it.

    • Stumblinbear@pawb.social
      12·
      11 months ago

      To be completely fair, a layer builds up in the pipe which stops the lead being an issue unless you royally fuck up like Flint. That said, it still should’ve been fixed

      • x4740N@lemmy.worldEnglish
        36·
        11 months ago

        As someone who thankfulky doesn’t like in the un-united states of america How exactly did flint royally fuck up

        • zarkony@lemmy.zipEnglish
          10·
          11 months ago

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis

          They were buying water from Detroit’s water system. In order to save money, they switched to getting it from the nearby river, but they failed to account for how the new water source would interact with their pipes. They didn’t treat the new water correctly and it corroded all their old lead pipes, dumping lead into the water and giving everyone lead poisoning.

          Even years later, after they switched back to Detroit water, they’re still having problems because the damage to the pipes is already done.

        • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          7·
          11 months ago

          They switched to a water source that wasn’t treated with orthophosphates. This change in water chemistry created an environment where the lead would dissolve off and be replaced with other metal deposits. My layman understanding is the water was treated in a way to bind lead to the pipes and the untreated water created an environment where the effect was counteracted.

          “Orthophosphates create a mineral coating that keeps toxic lead stuck to pipes.”

          “The absence of orthophosphates made the lead vulnerable to dissolving off the pipes and into the water supply. Meanwhile, other metals like aluminum and magnesium appeared to take the lead’s place.”

          https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/science/study-confirms-lead-got-flints-water

          • EssentialCoffee@midwest.socialEnglish
            1·
            11 months ago

            Well, the appointed officials switched to a water source and specifically chose to not treat it with required chemicals to save money.

            Slightly different than just switching water sources.

    • prole@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      7·
      11 months ago

      It’s such a staggering amount of work and money that I think is hard for most people to comprehend. Though, if dispersed properly, will benefit local workers as they usually require they get paid prevailing wage. Which can be pretty fucking high depending on where you live.

      And even once all of the lead service lines are replaced, that’s just from main to the meter at most. All of the internal fixtures are the owner’s responsibility, and you better believe tons of old houses are still full of lead pipes.

      This is something that is going to take decades, and you’re absolutely right that we should have started decades ago.

      • barsoap@lemm.ee
        4·
        11 months ago

        Germany outlawed installing lead pipes in 1973, this year operating them got outlawed, though already ten years ago the permissible lead concentrations were so low as to be basically impossible achieve if you had even short runs of lead pipes. All the main lines got replaced IIRC in the 80s, latest, can’t find numbers right now, though apparently they rarely used lead there in the first place.

        Also, btw, if you’re already digging up water pipes it’s quite easy to install some cable ducts while you’re at it, put all those power and telco lines underground and stop looking like a 3rd world country. That kind of last-mile infrastructure should be managed by municipal-level monopoly, if an ISP wants to sell you something they can hook up to the municipality’s IXP and rent the rest of the way to your house at fixed, fair, rates. It’s a natural monopoly: It makes as much economical sense to run more than two power or telco connections to a house as it makes to run more than one street to your house: Costs a lot of money to run that second street and as soon as you did your competitor is going to lower their prices, which they can do because their investment already amortised, and leave you stranded with your investment because why would the residents of the house switch to your offering if your competitor is cheaper. There’s an opportunity when switching from copper to fiber but fiber will last for the next 1000 years so it’s not really a solution.

        • pete_the_cat@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          11 months ago

          Come on now, you’re actually making sense, we don’t do that here in the US. Money and the amount of effort required rule everything.

      • pete_the_cat@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        It’s just another case of “it costs too much to fix it, so just keep slapping a bandaid on it and kick it down the road”, just like the rest of our infrastructure. Yet we have billions available to “defend” ourselves 🙄

        • Wrench Wizard@lemmy.world
          1·
          11 months ago

          More than billions, I think our defense budget was $766 billion in 2022 alone, at around 12% which was actually lower than 2021 which cost taxpayers 15% and 801 billion.

          It’s… it’s a big big problem, especially in a time where the U.S hasn’t had a war on it’s soil in a long, long time.

          I get that we go to other countries and help out a bit get involved but we have issues on our own turf killing us from the inside.

          • pete_the_cat@lemmy.worldEnglish
            0·
            11 months ago

            Yeah, I just saw a YouTube video where the US has “frozen” the access to mega-yachts owned by Russian billionaires, but they can’t seize them because they can’t legally prove that the billionaires own them since they’re registered in one country and owned by a shell corporation in another country. So if we (and other countries who are doing this) can eventually prove that they own said yachts, we can sell them, but until then we have to pay the constant upkeep on them to keep them in pristine condition… Which costs like 10 million a year per yacht…and we have multiple of them🤦‍♂️

            No money to pay our citizens more, invest in our own infrastructure, or fund programs that our citizens need!

            • Wrench Wizard@lemmy.world
              0·
              11 months ago

              Nope, none of that. Can’t even support our veterans that fought in the past wars that taxpayers had to pay trillions for but they can afford the salaries of the soldiers currently out there. It’s like when a corporation cuts the 401k’s of thousands of employees then turns around and hires thousands more…

              The yachts ordeal is yet another example. All this $ frivolously spent on excess before basic needs of citizens are being met. The U.S could damned near be a utopia if we’d elect some people with common sense and quit voting in corrupt politicians.

              I could rant about this for hours as it’s just basic stuff. It’s petty and boring so read on at your own risk.

              We can’t afford guns until the needs of the common people have been met.

              We can’t afford to imprison people for trivial stuff when they’re not an active threat to society.

              Healthcare is a right, not a privilege.

              Food is a right. No one should have to decide between paying the rent and eating a proper meal.

              Housing is a right and shouldn’t be a for profit industry. Buying up tons of land in a scheme to get wealthy isn’t good for anyone.

              Banks just… shouldn’t exist the way that they do. Neither should the credit system, predatory loaning practices etc. Prices just keep going up due to this.

              If banks/credit ceased to exist and loans stopped being made, then the price of things would have to adjust to reflect what the average person can actually afford which just makes sense right? If an average person can’t make enough to afford their own home at regular wages within a few years by their self then either they aren’t getting paid enough or asking prices are way too damned high.

              There are just some practices in this world that are bad for it. Everyone knows the shit but no one will do anything because the people with the power to actually enforce change are benefitting too much from the same system to kill it.

              Oh, and another one. Flint Michigan is supposedly enacting an (iirc) $9-10 million dollar bill to repair/replace their pipes in order for the people their to have clean drinking water and not get sick or die from lead poisoning. $9-10 mill would make all that difference yet our government won’t pay it even though we’re spending the better part of a trillion each year blowing things up. How petty is that? Can’t take a penny out of our war money so people can have clean drinking water… pathetic!

      • Asafum@feddit.nl
        1·
        11 months ago

        I actually just listened to a podcast about NYCs water supply. To back up your claim, they started pipe #3 around the 1970s and only recently finished (or should have by 2021, the episode was from before then)

        • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
          1·
          11 months ago

          Portland replaced most of its water and sewer pipes, AND built a massive 21 ft diameter sewer bypass and storage line 250 ft below the city over the course of about 10 years. When I was living there, the city went up and down every building on every street in my neighborhood to put in new sewer and water connections. Those crews were fast.

          NYC is just too big, old and bureaucratic compared to other US cities.

  • Dra@lemmy.zip
    251·
    11 months ago

    This has been often speculated as being the cause of the “Stupid American” stereotype. Good decision

    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
      111·
      11 months ago

      That seems implausible. Lead pipes are common pretty much everywhere and it’s usually not a problem due to a coating on the pipes.

      It’s just an issue in the US because there’s been a few notable examples of that coating being damaged and causing contamination, which creates political will to do the replacements that everyone is doing at an accelerated pace.

      Most places, in the US or not, just replace them during routine maintenance. The UK and Germany should have theirs replaced by 2100, if nothing comes up to make them accelerate the process.

      • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        11 months ago

        The US hasn’t been good about replacing pipes in general, there’s even a good amount that aren’t even documented in some areas.

        • DoomBot5@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          11 months ago

          Didn’t they pull out some wooden pipes somewhere in the US within the last couple years? I remember seeing an article about it.

          • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            11 months ago

            I believe someone found wood pipes still in use, it may have been flint, since they got a complete overhaul of their pipes.

            • bluGill@kbin.social
              1·
              11 months ago

              30 years ago Boston was trying to map their pre revolutionary war wood pipes. I would expect flint was built with metal pipes, as that area is mostly known for iron.

      • Enkrod@feddit.de
        2·
        11 months ago

        This year Germany passed a law to completely remove all lead pipes until January 2026.

        But the allowed levels of lead in drinking water have already been lowered so much since 2013 (10 microgram per liter, this has been lowered again since to 5 microgram per liter) that any water that passed through a lead pipe cannot realistically fulfill the requirements, thus there are only extremely few households left with any lead in their pipes.

        Coating the pipes is not a way out of this, since Germany has expressly forbidden this as a way to renovate.

        • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          11 months ago

          Oh, I’m not saying we should coat the pipes, I’m saying that it’s not a massive continuous crisis is because there is a coating on the pipes created by the water treatment.

          We definitely should replace all of them because that coating is too easy to damage and there’s no reason to take the risk, but “lead pipes” is unlikely to be a US specific health issue like was originally insinuated.

      • n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        11 months ago

        hydrofluorosilicic acid is the cause of all the problems with lead pipes. It is being used as a replacement for standard fluoride

      • Furbag@lemmy.world
        1·
        11 months ago

        There was lead in so many products in our parent’s generation, not just the water pipes and gasoline. Cosmetics and paint are also two notable ones that, combined with all the other sources of lead, increased exposure to hazardous levels.

  • Cylusthevirus@kbin.social
    222·
    1 year ago

    Here you go.

    "An initial estimate is that 25% of domestic dwellings in the EU have a lead pipe, either as a connection to the water main, or as part of the internal plumbing, or both, potentially putting 120 million people at risk from lead in drinking water within the EU. "

    • Buffalox@lemmy.world
      13·
      1 year ago

      As of 14 years ago! And Europe has a lot of former communist countries that hasn’t fully reached Western European standards yet.

        • Buffalox@lemmy.world
          4·
          1 year ago

          At what level though and how was the lead content assessed?

          You obviously don’t understand, in piping led was used as in actual led, not just contaminated metals with trace amounts of led. Trace amounts too have been banned for many years in mostly anything people come into contact with. Like porcelain colors, and paints where it was used to avoid for instance mold.

          Zero led has been the standard in almost anything here (Denmark) since the 70’s, and it’s been an EU standard for at least 2 decades.
          I cannot take seriously that EU should not be way way ahead of USA, maybe with the exception of former Soviet block countries.

          • Cylusthevirus@kbin.social
            3·
            1 year ago

            You obviously don’t understand

            I assure you I am fully aware of the many ways lead has made its way into water in both Europe and the US including literal lead pipes. Actual lead pipes have been banned in the US since 1986 as per my link but of course many remain.

            Denmark appears to be ahead of most of Europe, but it’s not just former soviet countries that struggle. England and Wales have lead pipes running to an estimated 25% of households and don’t expect that problem to be cleared up by 2040 or later.

            • JanoRis@kbin.social
              3·
              1 year ago

              England and Wales are no more EU though, they don’t have to follow EU regulations.

              But yeah many EU countries still have some areas with lead pipes, even Germany, France and so on. It seems to be hard to track

              • Cylusthevirus@kbin.social
                1·
                1 year ago

                They’re still in Europe, and I said Europe, not the EU. Also Brexit was in 2020 and I’m relatively certain those pipes were there before that.

            • Buffalox@lemmy.world
              1·
              11 months ago

              Oh yeah I forgot UK, but to be fair it’s about 45 years since I heard they still used it, despite evidence dating back to the Roman empire that it is toxic. I got the impression UK was the only place in Europe that still used it, obviously possibly excluding the soviet block who were always way way behind on everything.

              Still to claim EU isn’t ahead of USA is wrong:

              https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/metals/an-update-on-the-lead-free-by-2014-mandate-europe/

              Apparently Ireland had a problem too, but apart from that the problems are mostly old German buildings that have led in their plumbing.And then Italy that has led lined aqueducts that aren’t used anymore, why that’s worth mentioning in the report IDK?

              So I maintain EU doesn’t have nearly the quality problems USA has with water supply, not with led and not with any other toxins. IDK why England is so backwards in this regard, but maybe it’s because they had the first industrialization in the world, and safety wasn’t as much of an issue back then.

        • JanoRis@kbin.social
          3·
          1 year ago

          https://kbin.social/m/news@lemmy.world/t/668177/-/comment/3862164

          In short:
          since 2013 EU has 10 ug/L limit. since 2020 a goal was set for 5 ug/L to be achieved until 2036.

          EPA current limit is 15 ug/L. Yes, they have set a 0 goal, but with apparently no timeline, so until than there will still be many areas with 15 ug/L. Bidens proposal would probably set this 0 goal into a 10 year timeframe, making it much better than the EU goal.

          • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
            1·
            11 months ago

            It should be noted that 0 is probably not realistic at all because even bottled water is allowed to have 5. His plan is to replace the service lines, but people in older houses can still have internal lead piping. This is mostly the issue with the UK’s water. There’s pretty much no lead (<2, which is background levels tbh) going to people’s houses, but because we’ve got a load of 100+ year old houses all over the place, they will still have more lead than people in newer homes.

            But I don’t think the level is really the issue. <15 is probably fine.

            The issue is that a bunch of poor people get a lot more than that and nobody has done anything about it. This plan should have been announced in 2014 when the problem first occurred at Flint.

  • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
    13·
    11 months ago

    Can you imagine if this turns out to be the thing that was needed to calm you lot down?

    In a major new study (conducted decades ago) it turns out that Lead in your water/food/air is bad for you

    • Wahots@pawb.social
      1·
      11 months ago

      People used to use leaded gas in cars, planes…hell…maybe even trains. Naturally, this was bad for you. Some planes still use leaded gas!