• Dreadfighter23@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    Maybe that’s because their own class is stealing and emulating their art without permission, sometimes even on purpose as a “fuck you” to them. In this case it’s not just the corporations screwing them over.

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      They’ve decided to brand what the AI does as stealing in order to twist the narrative. It isnt stealing when the images are generated from scratch. And because they are using full manipulative tactics to enhance their fear mongering, they deserve ever bit of fuck you’s they can get

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        Generated from scratch? How do you think AI generates images? They need to be trained on images to produce anything coherent, there is no “generated from scratch” with AI (well, DL like stable diffusion)

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          Do you think humans create art in a vacuum? They dont, they use all the art they have ever seen or grown up around for inspiration. Do you owe Disney a cut because their movies as a child inspired you to get into art?

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              LLM’s arent a 1-1 comparison to human learning, but they are the closest we have gotten yet. These programs are capable of learning and storing lessons from previous sets of instructions that are no longer currently being provided. Its not completely ridiculous to compare that to how humans learn

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            I don’t, and I never said that. I was replying to your assertion that it isn’t stealing if it’s generated from scratch. Your assumption that AI (DL) generates from scratch is simply wrong.

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              Well I’ve watched them get made by scratch multiple times, and when I first started making gens I’d reverse google search them to see if they were too close to anything existing previously and they never were, so, I’m gonna need more proof than anyone who’s claimed it was plagiarism has been willing to provide has given so far

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      Their own class is making FOSS tools like Stable Diffusion and training models on copyright free sources and AI generated imagery, the corporations are the only ones stealing.

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          New tools new problems new solutions. Identity theft has always existed, it’s time for society to realise everything they contribute can now be socialised as knowledge and information for all, including our voices. Other voice actresses, like the one who voiced Lydia for Skyrim, also requested that her voice not be used for mods and facsimiles, this was for the most part respected by the creator community, but can’t be enforced, and any person with less clout won’t have any control over their exposure any more. Society will have to accept that our physical likenesses are publicly accessible information than can be replicated, this was always going to become the case, recording information is what humans do best. Next up, thoughts and memories.