We don’t feel entitled to anything, we just don’t want every attempt we make to be marginalized and our artworks constantly stolen.
is contradictory. You believe that you are entitled to publish and distribute your work while retaining some control over how it is used. Again, I don’t disagree with that take, but you either feel as though you deserve something (be it payment, credit, control, or something else) for the art you disseminate, or you don’t.
Its not really a contradiction, just poor wording on my part.
By “we don’t feel entitled” I meant that we don’t generally go around making art and expecting everyone to give us a thumbs up and a bunch of money for it. With the marginalized part I was talking about when we do share our artwork, there needs to safe places to do so without having our work taken without consent and used for something we didn’t agree to. The vast majority of the time artists post online, not to make money or even get recognized, but to share something they are proud of with their community and get invaluable feedback from them. Its kinda building a box fort as a kid, you don’t expect everyone to praise or pay you for making it, but your still proud of it and want to show it off to your friends. It sure feels like shit when the adults come, take it all down, and tell you to grow up. And it feels even worse when the bullies take credit and everyone praises them for the amazing box fort they “made”.
When it comes to retaining control, that shouldn’t be something that we deserve or feel entitled to like its a box of Lego in the toy store. Control of their creation should be an automatic right and expectation for anyone that makes something, regardless of whether or not they are an artist.
Here’s my take as an artist. Sometimes the things we hold most dear are too delicate to share. Either make art for the public, or make art for private consumption. If you do the former accept that anything you release to the public is owned by the public, consider it advertising, and when you do the latter make sure you keep what is private out of the access of the public. If someone likes what you can do they’ll come to you for commissions, if they then release those commissions to the public then that’s their choice to socialise that artwork, consider it advertising.
But the only way for art to be great is if it shared, and the Internet is the single greatest invention for doing just that. There are rules and laws already in place meant to protect artists and let them share safely. We just need the laws to catch up with the modern world and AI. There has to be a happy medium where artists can create and share their art openly while AI can advance safely and be used as the powerful tool that it is.
I agree, but you don’t share a faberge egg with a child, nor a nude with an enemy. Understanding that anything you put into the public sphere is prone to be poked, grabbed, smeared, and stolen is just a natural part of sharing. Even laws can only protect so much and only in retrospect.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you here, but
is contradictory. You believe that you are entitled to publish and distribute your work while retaining some control over how it is used. Again, I don’t disagree with that take, but you either feel as though you deserve something (be it payment, credit, control, or something else) for the art you disseminate, or you don’t.
Its not really a contradiction, just poor wording on my part.
By “we don’t feel entitled” I meant that we don’t generally go around making art and expecting everyone to give us a thumbs up and a bunch of money for it. With the marginalized part I was talking about when we do share our artwork, there needs to safe places to do so without having our work taken without consent and used for something we didn’t agree to. The vast majority of the time artists post online, not to make money or even get recognized, but to share something they are proud of with their community and get invaluable feedback from them. Its kinda building a box fort as a kid, you don’t expect everyone to praise or pay you for making it, but your still proud of it and want to show it off to your friends. It sure feels like shit when the adults come, take it all down, and tell you to grow up. And it feels even worse when the bullies take credit and everyone praises them for the amazing box fort they “made”.
When it comes to retaining control, that shouldn’t be something that we deserve or feel entitled to like its a box of Lego in the toy store. Control of their creation should be an automatic right and expectation for anyone that makes something, regardless of whether or not they are an artist.
Here’s my take as an artist. Sometimes the things we hold most dear are too delicate to share. Either make art for the public, or make art for private consumption. If you do the former accept that anything you release to the public is owned by the public, consider it advertising, and when you do the latter make sure you keep what is private out of the access of the public. If someone likes what you can do they’ll come to you for commissions, if they then release those commissions to the public then that’s their choice to socialise that artwork, consider it advertising.
But the only way for art to be great is if it shared, and the Internet is the single greatest invention for doing just that. There are rules and laws already in place meant to protect artists and let them share safely. We just need the laws to catch up with the modern world and AI. There has to be a happy medium where artists can create and share their art openly while AI can advance safely and be used as the powerful tool that it is.
I agree, but you don’t share a faberge egg with a child, nor a nude with an enemy. Understanding that anything you put into the public sphere is prone to be poked, grabbed, smeared, and stolen is just a natural part of sharing. Even laws can only protect so much and only in retrospect.