UFC star Paige VanZant said OnlyFans allows her to make ‘life-changing money’
That says a lot about UFC.
UFC pays like shit for all but the top talent.
Tbf, she was never at risk of being considered that so it doesn’t say that much about the pay scale vs OF.
and thirsty dudes.
And people wonder why all these teachers are ending up on onlyfans
It’s not like the profession has been treating them with any more respect anyway.
And probably a bit about UFC fans, too
For anyone that doesn’t want to click fox news:
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2023/09/paige-vanzant-onlyfans-video-ufc-pay-money-net-worth
The real hero, here.
She made that much because she’s a known fighter established within the UFC. UFC pays shit but it pays shit across the board unless you are a superstar.
I know a few people who have dipped into OF, and only one of them made enough after a few months to keep going. Still has a day job though.
Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like someone going out and being beaten for the entertainment of others should be well paid for their beatings, regardless of their “top skill” status. I don’t watch ufc, but I’ve only ever heard bad things about their treatment of the fighters.
She’d never have made that much of it weren’t for her time with ufc, but it’s also no wonder she makes more on OF.
She’s making 50k a year + payouts from her fights.
Assuming a 100k win bonus (it’s actually closer to 400 if you believe random books blogs and Internet rumors) even on the low side shes already made 1M in the past 5 years or so.
Again estimating in their favor let’s say 60% of that goes to get camp and taxes. 125k a year for 3 fights is more than reasonable. It’s likely she is making more than that however.
She isn’t very popular and would never be able to support her own card. She’s also used her popularity to get on network TV, and rake in a few million by getting laid. It’s not even porn shoots. It’s her own terms and partners.
I’m not going to shed a tear for her. She’s set for life with any form of reasonable money management and clearly has leveraged her popularity from UFC and done well for herself.
If true, how much did she make in 24h on OnlyFans. She said it’s more than her entire career. I can’t believe she made over 1M in 1 day on OnlyFans.
I’m forgetting which UK news channel it was but they had a successful OF person on, tried the “what will your kids think of you” and she replied “they can cry about it in a Ferrari”
The American dream, when money matters more than morality.
It’s not even porn shoots. It’s her own terms and partners.
To somebody who doesn’t know the industry, can you explain to me why that matters in any way?
There’s probably a subtle difference between “exploiting yourself” and getting most of the money after OF fees, vs getting paid essentially minimum wage for a shoot which then gets repeatedly repackaged and distributed for the company that makes way more money off it than you ever did. Which on one hand is essentially the same as being any other actress, but also not remotely the same considering the material, and how many women regret being convinced to take part in it because of exposure and social backlash.
Would you like to shoot porn when someone you love and trust or a random person?
Would you like to shoot porn when someone you love and trust or a random person?
For me personally it would honestly depend on if it was for work or for pleasure.
For others, I have no idea.
My understanding of the original comment I replied to with my question was concerning business/work.
So you say I will not get much money on OF?
Not without some work and a nice set of titties or dick. Or maybe the fetish route.
What type of work? I can work.
Crybaby squat cobbler can pay in spades.
Marketing and promotion.
I think it’s sad seeing this considering all the women I know who have been suckered into making OFs only to make a few bucks from weirdos saving their nudes.
Porn is the same, really. Most people who do porn make very little money from it, but still have to deal with their naked bodies on the internet.
Seems like you should only do fans (and similar pages) if you already have a fan base in some other area. Otherwise it will end like you said.
Or if you just actually want to do sex work. It’s like camming. It can be a hobby where you pick up a couple bucks here and there. If you want it to be a job it’s going to be more like trying to make it as a musician or actor.
In general if you’re more or less normal you aren’t going to make any real money as a sex worker. Either you aren’t famous or attractive enough or you aren’t willing to do what it’ll take to make better money or you won’t settle for the little you’ll get or be willing to deal with people who have odd fetishes, possibly of your body type.
All internet media is basically the same on pay. Most people on you tube or twitch don’t make much either.
Yeah, but they don’t put their naked bodies out there.
Yep, even more so if they had to due to unfortunate reasons. Though not entirely, it works the same way as any average person starting something likestreaming and thinking of making it big quick.
I reckon she only had this much success due to having some level of popularity to begin with.
OF out there making up for the gender pay gap
Trust me, it’s not.
For every story like this, there are literally millions where regular women make next to nothing for their nudes.
Most normal women with OFs usually end up having a few subs from people they know who just want to distribute their nudes among peers. Imagine thinking you’re going to make thousands when you end up making less than $100, and now everyone has your nudes.
That’s the reality for most people on OF. And it’s sad.
It’s all down to exposure and even minor celebrity status can be leveraged to generate lots of views.
You see a similar thing in the acting community: celebrity actors aren’t really better as actors than lots of unknowns out there (the quality all around of acting in places with very good acting colleges and a strong acting tradition, such as Britain, is really good) and often you get stories of people’s careers taking off due to a mix of luck and persistence, and once people are in the public eye their careers pretty much shift gears (for reference, the average actor in the UK earns in average less than minimum wage from Acting).
If you consider “people having your nudes bad”. I’m sure some do/have but many just don’t care. My friend’s sister has one. I subbed to support her and because she’s hot. Unsubbed later because she was too expensive. Hung out with her at a party once and she didn’t give a flying shit I had seen her buck naked. We just talked about normal stuff.
Lol, no joke, I thought you said “your sister” instead of your friend’s sister.
I was like wtf lmao.
I can’t believe this stuff, because it is a fox “news” article. Why was this even posted here? How can we be sure that this is even real considering everyone on this post says you don’t make jack squat on that site
It’s real, Fox News loves posting these horn-dog articles because it hits the bullseye of their conservative-value, low-morality base
Nobody holds a vice quite like the religious.
When you can just make all your sins disappear by thinking really hard at your sky friend, why bother with silly things like “morality”
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and so are the cum frittata brothers
Wait, what brothers are these?
the cum frittata brothers.
Fertitta owns the 87 meter yacht Lonian and the associated 66 meter support vessel Hodor.
… a ‘support’ yacht named Hodor. Jayzuz.
So what’s the connection to cum?
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OK but she wouldn’t be as popular and wouldn’t have made that much on OF if it weren’t for her tike in the UFC. I mean she’s hot yea, but she’s famous because of her mma career.
Just pics, or is she doing shows? There’s a “glad he ate her” joke in there somewhere…
“Paige, yes!”
It’s amazing what showing your boobs can do for a woman. It’d be infuriating if not for all the gender-based discrimination and life endangering bullshit they also have to deal with. Instead it’s just another example of why we deserve the extinction we’re currently bringing down in ourselves.
“Women showing their tits online is another reason humans deserve extinction” was not on tonight’s bingo card.
“women feeling the legit need to expose themselves for others to make a good living is another reason we deserve extinction” might be a better explaination.
But even if not for that, there’s lots of other reasons.
Yeah that’s how I read it
Oh jeeze, that’s rough, a person showing themselves online for money, society must be truly be breaking down for that
When I left reddit, I really thought I would see less incel shit. Guess I was wrong. How the fuck did this get 25 upvotes?!
I wonder if it’s just modern society that gives taboo to naked bodies. There are plenty of other societies whose people are buck naked and they don’t seem to think anything much about it. If there is no taboo on being naked, I’m sure Onlyfans wouldn’t make any money at all.
Plenty? Some societies have partial nudity as the norm, but this is the far minority, and even then it’s partial.
It’s so cool that we are giving young woman the idea that they can make money by selling their body. I’m sure that is great for society.
Dude, she was a professional fighter. She was already selling her body.
now she’s selling her dignity
WTF is dignity? Sounds like something religious nut jobs made up to control women with
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I’m sure all the girls who have their naked pictures permanently floating around the internet for creepy guys to jack off to are really happy with the 50$ they made doing so. For every successful only fans model there are 100’s who gave up their dignity for a permanent stain on their reputation that will follow them and their kids around for life.
Why would naked pictures of yourself be a permanent stain on their reputation?
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What’s fucked up on my view of the human body? Did you respond to the right comment?
It’s kind of funny hearing you say that when some of the most famous paintings and statues are of people’s naked bodies. I’m not saying I’d do it or that people would want me to or that they won’t regret it any less than I regret some of the decisions I’ve made, but the biggest negative impact from doing so is social stigma from people who think doing so makes you less valuable. I’ll leave it up to you to decide if you’re going to stigmatize adults who are making choices about their life that pose no harm to anyone who hasn’t consented.
It’s so cool that
we areCapitalism is giving young women the idea that they can make money by selling their body. I’m sure that is great for society.FTFY
Whether doing sex work, manual labor, or a desk job, you are selling your body for profit. If you have a problem with that then you have a problem with Capitalism.
Neat friend, can you please clarify what it is we are doing with our bodies under not-capitalism?
You mean selling your body for fighting in UFC?
The story of the opposite - she makes more money not selling her body!
In my opinion people should be able to do what they want with their own bodies (with the exception of meth, crack, etc) my problem with this only fans situation is that it’s just underscoring that our society only seems to value women for their sexuality. I don’t follow UFC but assuming she’s good at what she does it’s sad to me that society values her body more than her abilities. The same thing goes for the only fans teachers. I just wished we valued people for their skills and education more than their flesh. Like I said do what you want with your own body though.
Why don’t I have the right to do whatever drugs I like? I know what I’m getting into, and it’s my body. A lot of psychiatrists preach the benefits of mushrooms and acid for mental health. And meth and crack certainly aren’t as powerful as mushrooms or acid.
My personal opinion is that there are some chemicals that are so detrimental to a person that society has the obligation to limit their use. Also, there is no articulable right to drugs in the Constitution except alcohol through the 21st amendment.
Why would I base my opinions on what slave owners who had never seen a light bulb thought?
the Constitution and decisions by the supreme Court determines what your legal rights are. Your opinions are your own and you can base them on whatever you want
Okay but why would I base them on the opinions of slave owners? That sounds stupid and nonsensical.
So there are two things at play here: rights and opinions. Legal rights in America are based on the constitution and the decisions made by the supreme Court. I’m not saying that they’re correct or not; justified or not; or ethical or not. I’m just making a statement of fact that’s where rights originate from in US law.
Opinions can be based on whatever you want. You are free to agree with or disagree with both the Constitution and the supreme Court. You can consider them valid or invalid institutions.
I’m not trying to tell you that you should be of a particular opinion or not.
The reason porn pays is because so few woman are willing to give up their dignity for the sake of temporary cash flow. If everyone did porn, people would be making scraps.
Yo… You think people never thought about selling sex before this was posted on Lemmy?
This is like giving people the idea of the wheel. I’d be willing to bet that human beings bartered for sex before they bartered for food or water.
… human beings bartered for sex
I think you mean men bartered for sex before food or water.
Women are smart enough to put their lives before sex.
This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve read in a while.
Doing porn is a permanent stain on your reputation. I hate seeing young girls turn to it because of the easy money to be made. For every girl that has success on only fans is 50 girls who will have their nudes circulate the internet for eternity for a measly 100$.
It’s only a permanent stain to people who care.
The people who make a big deal out of it are the ones that should be ashamed.
And a lot of people care. So it does matter.
I mean with this logic:
You know a lot of people were okay with slavery…
Just to be clear I’m pointing out that morality is not something that humanity votes on. Because humanity voted okay on slavery.
When was slavery voted upon?
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Barring any of the other context here, you need to back up and think about why you think it’s so awful for a nude picture to exist.
Are you helping or are you pushing your own moral code onto those who may not share it?
Do you think that young women don’t figure it out on their own? I’m not saying this is a responsible article, but it’s more like a glowing article about how much oil field workers make. But sex work is old and young women have always figured it out.
I think we have yet to see the full impact of the damage to young women who were sold a dream of making money on only fans. Instead they will have their nudes permanently passed so disgusting old men can jack off to them. There is no undoing that and I suspect that will haunt a lot of girls far into the future.
You sure are doing women a favor by fear mongering over it and acting like it’s something shameful. With modern tech all you need is a picture of someone’s face anyway. And I say this as someone who has had content posted without my knowledge or consent. What exactly do you want me to do, live my life being “haunted” by this or tell people like you to fuck off and quit making it worse?
Not on OF, but I’ve got nudes out there. I really don’t give a shit who sees em. I’m not ashamed of them. Where do you get the idea that irreparably damages women?
It’s so cool that
we areCapitalism is giving young women the idea that they can make money by selling their body. I’m sure that is great for society.FTFY
Whether doing sex work, manual labor, or a desk job, you are selling your body for profit. If you have a problem with that then you have a problem with Capitalism.
