• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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      At the very least he was a seat that put democrats in charge of the senate. Without him WV almost certainly get a red seat.

      Given Biden’s poll numbers and the loss of the seat, we’re going to be dangerously close to a national abortion ban in 2024.

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    I know it’s cool to hate him and all, but can West Virginia actually do better than him?

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      I think people who were frustrated with him completely misunderstand. The alternative to Joe Manchin isn’t a more normal Dem. It’s no Dem at all. He was a bonus vote, who helped keep control of the senate, allowing Dems to set the legislative agenda and approve judicial appointments.

      And frankly, the alternative isn’t even a normal Republican. West Virginia is one of the reddest states in the country with a partisan lean of R+35.5! Joe Manchin will likely be replaced with a super right wing ideologue. Dems had no right to expect more from Manchin.

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        Sure we do. If he planned on not running for reelection anyway, then he could have given a massive middle finger to the radical right wing constituents he served and dragged Republicans into the 21st century. Instead, he and Sinema shackled progressive policies to a boat anchor and tossed it into Lake Baikal.

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      lol no. In 2020 Biden lost WV by over 40 points and so did the Dem running for Senate there.

      The state legislature has an 89-11 Republican majority in the house of delegates and a 31-3 Republican majority in the Senate.

      And it’s only getting redder.

      That seat will be lost to republicans for generations. Manchin was only electable as a Dem because he was a very popular governor. He’s the only Dem in the state that could win it.

      People cheering for this are absolute fucking idiots.

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        Pretty low bar, but yeah. He was vilified more than he should have been for short term gains and now the Democrats have lost a seat for the long term that they can’t afford to lose.

        Please, please prove me wrong West Virginia.

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          He’s been declining in electability over time. He had a high chance of losing the next election to a generic red team candidate, and then the red team candidate turned out to be someone with a lot of name recognition and electability. He was quite unlikely to continue in the WV senator role no matter what, and I don’t think the Dems vilifying him is the cause. If anything, it helped him in WV, just not enough.

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            Probably true I suppose. But he had SOME chance of being elected. I’m not sure that’s true of anyone else. I guess we’ll see and like I said, I hope I’m wrong.

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      Yeah exactly. We are losing someone who votes with Dems like 80% of the time to an actual Republican who will be closer to 10%.

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    Y’know, I get the whole ‘but it’s a red-as-fuck state so we have to take a safe centrist candidate’ thing, but are you fucking kidding me? Centrist democrats give democrats a terrible name in the first place- they’re corporate creatures whose favorite pastime is hunting the poor for sport and colluding with right-wingers to suppress labor rights and make corporate power unassailable.

    Fuck that guy

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    dont let the door hit on the way you god-awful, terrible excuse for a human being. that you breathe same air as the rest of us on this planet is a waste.

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      Not only breathes it. Pumps toxins into it via the coal company he owns.

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      Wasn’t this guy just in the news for kicking the infrastructure bill (which was effectively meant to be our try at national-level climate action) repeatedly in the balls, cutting climate and infrastructure spending by like half - and then holding the whole thing up at the end when his clients/constituents presumably realized that one of the provisions in the bill would jeopardize the pipeline deal they had been working on (which, surprise, happened to go through some frontline communities, etc etc)?

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    Oh noooo……with Manchin and Sinema leaving Glitch McCONnell has no Manchurian candidate left in senate democrat camp

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    Man if he runs third party he could easily become one of the most potentially successful third party candidates since Perot.

    And the fact hes now touring the States really makes this look like a possibility.

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      Does anyone outside of WV actually like this guy? He seems to be interested in something like that but I don’t see it going anywhere.

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        Some of the conservatives I know like him. His audience would be republicans who think Trump/Desantis/Vivek are too extreme and democrats who think Biden is too old + DINOs. Maybe some conservative democrats and southern democrats.

        Course im not sure thats enough to win, but do damage, I think so.