Don’t fall into the trap of ‘picking sides’ over Gaza: Hamas’s attacks were unconscionable, razing Gaza to the ground would be abhorrent. In both cases, basic humanity is at stake --- [Opinion] - Feddit
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  • blazera@kbin.social
    5·
    1 year ago

    Why do i keep hearing it described like losing a game? Zionists invaded, murdered, and exiled palestinians from their land, that should “win” them nothing but opposition from the international community, same as happening with Russias invasion of Ukraine.

    • sqgl@beehaw.org
      2·
      1 year ago

      Why do i keep hearing it described like losing a game?

      What do you mean by “it”?

      I thought we were talking specifically about changes to the borders of what was given to them (irresponsibly?) by the Allies after WW2.

      The 6 day war in 1967 was initiated by surrounding Arab countries. Israel won that war and expanded into the Sinai and Gaza (Egypt), Golan Heights (Syria), West Bank and East Jerusalem (Jordan). They didn’t initiate the expansion. They then returned the Sinai to Egypt.

      Admittedly after that they did take more without provocation. The chipping away with settlements is happening to this very day.

      I just rewatched the above video in order to spell out the details. It is all new to me. Have a look yourself if you are genuinely interested in discussing the conflict. It really is well made and easy to follow (I dunno if there are errors though).

      • blazera@kbin.social
        5·
        1 year ago

        Nothing was ever given to them, only taken. They were living there already. They did not consent to being murdered and evicted from where they lived, and predictably they fought against it. That they lost against a much larger, internationally backed army invading their land doesnt exactly persuade me that they should lose their right to living there.

        • sqgl@beehaw.org
          2·
          1 year ago

          Nothing was ever given to them, only taken

          Who is “them”? I was talking about the land given to Jews by the colonisers: England and France.

          The 6 day war had a larger army on the Arab side. I dunno how much financial backing Israel had from USA or how it compared with the backing (if any) by the Arab oil states and I doubt you know or care either.

          I am trying to learn here, but you just insist on lazy mud slinging. Blocking you.

          • blazera@kbin.social
            1·
            1 year ago

            You and the rest of the world are blocking out the truth, not able to defend the indefensible actions of Israel.