Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis defended his call to ban pro-Palestinian groups from Florida state colleges Sunday, after one of his Republican presidential primary opponents, Vivek Ramaswamy, slammed the demand as “a shameful political ploy.”
“It’s unconstitutional. It’s utter hypocrisy for someone who railed against left-wing cancel culture,” Ramaswamy posted on X (formerly Twitter) Thursday, alleging that it violates students’ right to free speech.
DeSantis held firm Sunday.
“This is not cancel culture. This group, they themselves said, in the aftermath of the Hamas attack, that they don’t just stand in solidarity that they are part of this Hamas movement,” DeSantis said during an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
It’s only cancel culture when it happens to fascists.
To be fair he’s right. It’s not cancel culture. It’s institutional racism.
I don’t agree with anything DeSantis says but Define race? I’m not seeing this leap.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/institutionalized-racism
Any more questions?
I think their really, and I cannot stress this enough, paper thin argument was that Palestinian isn’t a race per se. They also are ignoring the very clear intention that is discrimination based on nationality which is illegal in most cases in the US (see customs and border patrol for exceptions that shouldn’t be granted but are in fact institutionally legal).
Again their point is fairly pointless, useless even, and they could’ve said it without coming off like an asshole trying to nettle at a topic they don’t understand. But I do think that was the point to their poorly constructed question.
For reference what is happening is federally illegal and specifically goes against the protections against national origins (see the section on public accommodations): https://www.justice.gov/crt/federal-protections-against-national-origin-discrimination-1
That’s how I read their question as well. I just went with the snarky answer :)
No. Still the same one
desantis didn’t say anything when literal nazis were hanging out with desantis flags in front of disney world so really i don’t wanna hear from him on this.
He retweeted a DeSantis promotional video a fan made, which featured Nazi imagery.
FYI – The “fan” was later found to be on staff, unless we’re thinking of different events, which, sadly is always possible!
Black sun in the background and all kinds of memes knit into the video
Well, pretty sure he’d be marching with them if there weren’t any cameras.
These are the eggshell stickers I should be seeing at gas pumps.
The party of small government everyone!
Came here to say this.
Not that fascists care at all that others point out their hypocrisy. They don’t hold themselves to any standards, so if they are hypocrites, it simply does not matter.
I had a friend who was radicalized during the pandemic by LoTT’s original account, and he doesn’t seem to care about the fact he likes yuri and loli stuff, all while calling LGBTQ+ people “pedophiles”. He just responds with the gigachad meme and a “who cares”. (Ironically he does think of male-on-male shota as pedophilic, likely he just calls sex acts he doesn’t like as such.)
Had to look some of those terms up (ETA: and, uh, yuck). Still don’t know what “LoTT” is?
But yeah, the right goes ALL IN on hypocrisy when it comes to their Qtarded nonsense. They don’t care about kids being trafficked, at all, they just want to smear others with terms they know most will find revolting.
Even if Gaetz was caught, on video, balls deep in someone underage, they’d still support him. How many of theirs have these problems, besides Groomer Gaetz? Donnie himself of course, even talking about his own daughter FFS. Then there is Hastert. And Roy Moore.
LoTT = Libs of TikTok
Oh right, I forgot about that weird woman.
I went to go find you a list, searching google for “republican pedophiles” and… got distracted. There were 422,000 results and then Google says “It looks like there aren’t many great results for this search”. Uh, Google… Google… don’t make me use another search engine.
I did find what I was remembering, granted - not a truly great source but seems to be largely sourced, if you care to venture back towards Reddit for a minute: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/vgmary/texas_gop_adopts_shockingly_explicit_antilgbtq/id27rvz/
Can you explain Yuri so the rest of us don’t have to look it up?
I’m assuming it’s not a King of Fighters character.
“Yuri is a Japanese media genre that focuses on intimate relationships between female characters, often with lesbian themes.”
Oh. So just lesbians. That’s not weird at all. I thought it was going to be some other type of underage bs
Well that’s the wikipedia definition, I think it is really common for the relationships to be of students, maybe ambiguously aged or in college in the plot but appearing young.
Cancel culture, no. Blatant violation of the first amendment? Probably.
Por que no los dos?
Also when it comes to the radicalized right wing and their rhetoric about Palestinians, anyone else reminded of the way the right would talk about South Africa?
Cancel culture? That’s not what it means. This is censorship culture.
Desantis doesn’t want people educated, he wants them angry
That’s not what it means
That’s because “cancel culture” doesn’t actually mean anything.
For more meaningless I’d look to woke. Being cancelled does mean something specific. As far as a “culture” of it, yeah, not so sure.
“This group, they themselves said, in the aftermath of the [shooting], that they don’t just stand in solidarity that they are part of this Christian nationalist movement.” Sound familiar?
But do go off about how it’s not cancel culture.
It’s cancel culture when it happens to them. When they do it, it’s called boycotting.
Except that’s not really how boycotting works when they do dumb shit like buy shoes just to set them on fire.
I’m wondering how many of the current commentors actually read the article, lol. Firstly. The title is wrong as he’s only challenging ONE group. Students for Justice in Palestine, so that’s click bait.
DeSantis is making a claim that the group he’s basing this on has claimed solidarity with Hamas, a terrorist organization. Like, should we be letting pro Hamas people just float around collage campuses?
Now, that’s what we should be looking at. We should be asking if this is just a racist political stunt. If you look up Students for Justice in Palestine, you’ll see articles claiming they have put out messages that are anti Semitic and pro hamas in nature. The chapter at this Florida school has apparently made it abundantly clear they are pro hamas. Professors and pro Jewish groups have written the management at the school and have been writing their representatives to address this issue.
Can you chuds fucking read and think for yourself? Like, yeah I hate DeSantis as much as the next guy but if you just shovel this biased political shit into your brain without a second thought you’re not better than any republican who posts hurrr durrr liberals on Facebook.
If you don’t take the time to actually look passed the headline, then you have no idea if this is a dickwad with too much power or if this is something else entirely. You don’t know if this is a targeted racist effort against students or if these are pro hamas students openly supporting (and potentially financially supporting) Hamas
And just to add, you can be against this decision, saying it’s not the government’s duty to handle religious and cultural affiliations of students. But at least actually know why you’d be against it, ffs
Edit: further, he’s not banning them, he’s only deactivating their official status, which means they cannot access school funds or materials for their purposes. They are still free to gather as any group has a right to.
The problem is hypocrisy. If you allow actual Nazi’s to walk around with swastikas in public…well this is the same.
That’s a very valid argument, yeah
It’s not up to the government to decide that. That’s the whole point of the first amendment.
This is assuming they don’t move past words.
I addressed that
And I’m disagreeing. He’s still limiting free speech. I don’t have to like what they are saying to realize their speech is still being limited by his actions. Say things we don’t like you get your funding cut.
Say bomb on a plane get your freedoms cut. It’s not the same
…how are you disagreeing with a point you agreed with? Are you just trying to be an argumentative tool today or something?
It sounded like you were agreeing with the decision. Are you not?
I was criticizing the fact that no one read it and decided to be upset at a headline alone. My point was that there is always more context to a story and context is important. You can’t just see a politician or party you don’t like do something and be upset, that’s just fucking stupid, you have to know WHY you should be upset. What will end up happening is a voter base so fucking stupid they’ll elect someone from the other party that ends up doing the same thing, but it’s okay because you voted for (D) or for ®, right?
I acknowledge at the bottom of my comment that this isn’t the government’s business, but then even added that this is a public university and these groups are essentially school sanctioned clubs and can use school assets and potentially money for some things, and that this wasn’t a ban, but a deactivation of official club status, meaning they can’t use those assets or funds to support materially hamas (not that there were accusations of using school funds for hamas, just that it was technically POSSIBLE)
Even more context, suddenly things aren’t so black and white.
I kind of agree with the groups deactivation, however DeSantis being the one to do it is problematic, he allowed Nazis at his rally and even retweeted Nazi propaganda at one point. So this puts him at a position of being by a hypocrite and racist. While I’m not necessarily disagreeing with the groups deactivation on principle, I don’t like that it was done by this person with these views, because this opens up room for him to do other problematic shit related to the current political climate that I don’t agree with.
I also think the issue is problematic because it was a government setting itself into religious matters. That’s a bit troubling to me, and yet it was an official religious group in a public university
Again, not so black and white. I KIND of agree with the deactivation on principle, but I actually disagree with the government doing it, and I disagree witb DeSantis using his position of power to push an agenda.
I think many people here see “DESANTIS DID A THING!” and just lose their fucking mind. That’s fucking stupid. Everything has layers and context and many points of view. Do I think “DESANTIS DID A THING” warrants outrage? Yes, we absolutely, but I think it shouldn’t be the full stop when forming an opinion.
Fair enough
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When did they say this? Also when his ass was quiet when literal Nazis paraded around, he can stay quiet now
I addressed that in a lower comment, yeah
Do you believe pro-IDF groups should be allowed on campuses despite the fact that they are genocidal collaborators?
No one is being banned from campus, and as long as the group isn’t just a generic Jewish group, as long as they have come out in support of the actions of Isreals military, then yes I would agree with a deactivation
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Bruh………
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He and Pence should sit down and talk about what kind of shenanigans they can come up with at the all white country club. It’s the only place they can go because no one else wants to elect them or hang with them.
Well maybe they don’t want to hang with them…
Someone should tell DeSADIST that no matter how much he punches down on marginalized groups, he just doesn’t have the hateful branding that little d does, and never will. At least little d has a weird kind of charisma that appeals to a certain type of person. DeSADIST just doesn’t have it, no matter how many elevator cowboy boots or white go-go boots he hobbles around in.
As stupid as it is, humans are still selecting their leaders by height, which is bad news for ronnie. Little d lies about his height (and weight), but he’s probably around 6 feet.
Ron DeathSentence
I’m personally surprised Ramaswamy of all folks is the one bashing it for being unconstitutional
You’d think he’d shrink from that line of attack considering his flagship policy is to throw one of the most recent amendments in the fucking trash.
A broken clock is right twice a day. It happens.
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