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A law under consideration by the German parliament would mean that people who have committed anti-Semitic acts can never be granted citizenship, German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said on Wednesday.
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How are they going to detect that, a “yes/no” question?
Per the article, past convictions.
Germany now bans Germany
Germany has banned that aspect of their history for quite some time
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They will use this law to deny citizenship to people from Palestine
Likely to anyone who even feigns sympathy for them too, if German reaction to Palestinian Liberation protests are anything to go by.
There’s a quite simple line in Germany: Don’t be violent and don’t shout things like “gas the Jews” and you can protest. And thousands did in quite a number of cities on quite a number of days. Get out of your filter bubble.
Exactly.
True.
If they had past convictions
And Ukraine I suppose
Until the brain-scan is perfected.
geeze get over your preconceptions about europeans, they have words for yes and no…
yikes
Already the case. To gain citizenship you generally have to have a clear criminal record, with the exception of youth offences, fines up to 90 days, and prison up to 3 month if it was on probation, unless the motive was antisemitic, racist, xenophobic, or otherwise contemptuous of humanity.
If they want to extend it to “has done something like that that wasn’t illegal” then they’re going to have a hard time before court as it would amount to immigration officials infringing on prerogatives of the judicature.
Tell that to Israeli government and the NSO group destroying family values and relationships, selling spyware to the same dictatorships they claim to stand against then attempting to avoid accountability.
Deal with it. If you want to make out with Hamas ,do it without german citizenship.
It was about time. All those diehard Erdoğan fans for example are pretty antisemitic in my experience.
Why not make that hate crimes in general?
Minister Faeser also makes it clear: “Racism, anti-Semitism or any other form of misanthropy stand in the way of naturalization - there is zero tolerance.” A clear commitment to the values of a free society should therefore be a prerequisite for naturalization. Anyone who does not share values such as the dignity and equality of all people and the equal rights of men and women, or who even acts against them, may not become a German.
But that’s already in the law. Unless the idea is to throw the Rechtsstaat out of the window and remove the requirement that people have the right to a fair trial.
Because that’s already in the law:
Sentence 1 does not apply if the foreigner was convicted of an antisemitic, racist or xenophobic offence, or other criminal offence evidencing contempt for humanity as referred to in section 46 (2) sentence 2 of the Criminal Code (Strafgesetzbuch) and sentenced to a prison term, fine or youth custody and the court judgment found that the offence was based on such a motive.
This is 100% performative bullshit.
Define anti semite
Showing off Nazi symbols. Which already is illegal
You dislike jews because they are jews.
A seven year old could figure that out, or shit, read wikipedia idk…
They are asking which way the minister wants to define the term.
The fucking same I would presume, most likely looking it up in a dictionary
Given how often the term is being misused lately, it’s a fair question. The Israeli embassy started a campaing against the mayor of Barcelona trying to frame her as an antisemite because she took symbolic measures to denounce Israel’s crimes against Palestinians back in February. Plenty of European politicians just don’t want to speak with honesty because they don’t want the bad PR of being the target of this kind of attacks.
How would you derive that someone “dislikes jews because they are jews”? Do you listen to them talk and make a decision following your gut? Do you make an MRI image of their brain and measure their brain waves to read their mind?
You would have to work with their past actions. And then it becomes non trivial to define “anti-semite”.
So it is not really about “what does the word mean” but “how do you decide who fits the definition and who doesn’t”. People are concerned about this because it is very hard to make a law that 100% only fits to the people you want to target (leaving asside wether the principle is correct or not).What in the fuck are you even talking about? Do you have the same issue identifying a racist? Do you need to MRI scan a KKK members brain to be sure if they are racist, do a deep dive into the background? Goddamn some of you on lemmy are fucking stupid…
I’m afraid the call is coming from inside the house in this case.
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Peak performance.
So its bad when Nazi’s kill people indiscriminately, but when Jews do it to Palestinians that’s totally fine?
They can keep their own Nazis, just not have new extra foreigners.
Why is it necessary to enact such a law in a foreign country? Germany isn’t even on the same continent.
This is a way to spin being able to remove organize citizenship to those who are supportive of Palestine or critical of Israel, and paint them as enemies of peace. This is Germany bringing back old traditions from the 40s.
Such a law is a prudent and necessary measure to ensure the stability and security of Germany. We cannot afford to allow individuals who may pose a threat to to become citizens. Europe must be vigilant in protecting its interests and ensuring the loyalty of its inhabitants. Anti-semitism, subversion and dissent must not be tolerated, as they can lead to chaos and rebellion. I fully support this law to maintain the strength and unity of Germany.
Poe’s Law moment. If you tell me you’re parodying the slow descent into fascism, I’ll believe you. If you tell me you unironically believe this instead, I’ll believe you as well.
It’s parody/satire, that’s their entire account. Sheev P refers to sheev palpetine.
and dissent must not be tolerated, as they can lead to chaos and rebellion
The party is always right
And how would Germany remain vigilant? The article gives exactly zero information about how Germany will adjudicate anti-semitism.
All in all, it sounds pretty disastrous for people’s rights.
You sound like chatgpt.
Antideutsch out in force I see.
