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Gotta love how they told people to go south then bombed them there, as well as hospitals. And they can just say every target, no matter how many civilians die, was a “Hamas target” and it’s “Hamas’ responsibility to protect civilians” while they indiscriminately bomb these civilians.
Crazy that more people aren’t speaking up against this.
They told people to evacuate and then bombed the evacuation routes.
Israeli spokespersons keep saying they’re fighting Nazis, but I only see Nazis on their side of this.
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Once Palestinians starteing evacuating North Gaza, Israel bombed the humanitarian corridor that they’d declared as safe.
Russia did the same to Ukrainians last year and EU & NATO & UN supported Ukraine. Now they support Israel.
I swear to God, I can’t name another country that takes such little criticism ever in the MSM other than Israel.
A fucking hospital ffs.
Their WW2 guilt trip game be strong.
For many it’s the sunk cost fallacy.
They’ve rhetorically, unreservedly supported Israel for half a century, and they will not be reexamining those intransigent beliefs today, thank you very much.
"The Doctor: How much blood will spill until everybody does what they’re always going to have to do from the very beginning – sit down and talk! Listen to me, listen. I just – I just want you to think. Do you know what thinking is? It’s just a fancy word for changing your mind.
Bonnie: I will not change my mind.
The Doctor: Then you will die stupid."
-Steven Moffat, excerpt from Doctor Who
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If it was any other West Asian country doing this, the entire West would be denouncing them and taking action. But because its Israel doing it, this is fine.
Because there are consequences of you go against the grain. It’s all about money…always. Palestinians have little to no money and influence.
It’s sad that this type of comment can and is often spun as “antisemitism”
Agreed. It’s also frustrating that the labeling of anything anti-Zionist as anti-Semitism just gives actual anti-Semites the opportunity to claim their actual anti-Semitism is anything but.
I will never fault someone for standing up for their people. In fact, one has to admire the fact that this person put their money (and reputation) where their mouth is. We strongly disagree on the matter, but antisemitism has nothing to do with it.
A question, for me, is where is the same pressure from other players? Where are the mega rich Arabs and Muslims pulling their funding because somebody didn’t put out a pro-Palestine message. Step up!
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(although we should be careful not to be tricked into thinking all militants, including those giving orders, are religious extremists - reportedly Hamas’ campaign on the 7th was ordered to take hostages and not kill civilians, and that the IDF basically implemented the Hannibal Doctrine against it’s own civilians leading to significant friendly fire casualties [even as reported by an Israeli who was held hostage and later interviewed on Israeli news]; you can see how murky the waters get in a propaganda war).
Can you share some of the reporting behind this use of ‘reportedly’. I have never seen this reported before though I am admittedly not reading everything.
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It’s difficult to tell if you believe it or not because you’ve referenced it within a larger point about how much confusion there is, but it seems like you believe it enough to repeat it. If so, what about the article makes you believe it or not?
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Arabs think of palestians as white trash cousins you don’t want at your wedding…
I have no idea if this is true or not but it seems like a gross generalization.
Also, US keeping them on a short lease with arms sales
Irrelevant. I’m talking about individuals not governments.
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the toxic sludge of racism + Islamophobia = support and empowerment for Israel to ethnically cleanse Palestine of Palestinians.
The other, possibly larger, part of it is the fear of being labeled antisemitic. Antisemitism is a huge problem all over the world but Jews aren’t to blame for what’s going on - Zionist are.
Yep. And yet Israel is giving the rest of the world more excuses for antisemitism. Who is even winning this “war,” other than Bibi and his toadies?
No one. Jews everywhere will take a reputation hit from the public at large because Bibi pretends to speak for them.
I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. I worked at a Jewish family business. I have lots of Jewish friends. And I’ve yet to meet a Jew who likes the guy…even the ones who support an Israeli state.
Agreed. I’m Jewish and have never supported Israel, but my parents do and even they hate him.
I think I support the idea of Israel because they’ve historically been a target of genocide but I recognize that it’s not my land being given away to make it. It’s the perpetual expansion if Israel that bothers me.
Zionists originally wanted a homeland and they got it. Now, Zionists want an empire. I’m pretty sure Palestine won’t exist after this conflict. You give a mouse a cookie…
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Zionism is just Israeli patriotism.
Zionism is by definition a nationalist ideology.
So wait, the problem is the existence of Israel?
I read there was a protest on London recently
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what beheaded babies?
Settlers made up a lie about Hamas beheading 40 babies and tricked Biden into saying he saw pictures.
It was later corrected: he didn’t see any pictures because there are no pictures.
Thanks. I do know about it, but didn’t know whether @sadreality was being sarcastic or serious. & was trying to find out.
Sarcastic
Thanks. Sorry for doubting you, There are so many kooks out here that its difficult to make out.
A fake story used as propaganda to manufacture consent for the genocide of Palestinians. Mainstream media and celebrities were repeating it blindly a week ago saying 40 beheaded babies were found
Thanks. I do know about it, but didn’t know whether @sadreality was being sarcastic or serious. & was trying to find out.
Well, Israel is bound by international law and is a (flawed) democracy. Doesn’t excuse them from wrongdoing though, but it makes things more gray than black.
The rest of the nation’s in the middle-east (or West Asia) are authoritarian nations that brutalize the population on occasion. Jordan in black September springs to mind as the Palestinians tried to overthrow the Jordanian rule and conquer it.
So, yeah, it is complicated.
Well, Israel is bound by international
The entire issue here is that they aren’t. They are openly committing war crimes in breach of international conventions and none of the self-appointed guardians of democracy in the West seem to be batting an eye.
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Israel is bound by international law
Has anyone informed Israel of this?
US President Joe Biden will once again emphasise Israel’s “right and duty” to defend itself.
More like “ight n dty tdfnfd ishlf”, the old fuck sounds like he’s trying to eat his own teeth.
The most powerful country in human history, and out of its 330 million people the best they could find to lead them was this guy who’s literally dying in front of our eyes.
Fuck me.
this guy who’s literally dying in front of our eyes
Back during the primary I remember seeing a lawn sign that said “BIDEN OUR TIME FOR A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE” and I think about that a lot lol.
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I’m sure they’ll say the hospital was full of human shields
Some nerd reported the post suggesting that maybe it was a Palestinian air strike. LMAO
Israel is claiming that some rockets launched by Hamas towards Israel went off course and hit the hospital.
I remember Russia staging a “Ukrainian missle attack”, but they were so bad at it that the damage was on the side of buildings facing away from Ukraine. Should be pretty easy to check that here too…
Are you referring to this, where the NYT reports the opposite happened? https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/world/europe/ukraine-missile-kostiantynivka-market.html
No, this was something that happened sometime last year. I tried to find one of the articles but I wasn’t able to. There was a lightly damaged building, with damage from an angle that couldn’t be hit by a weapon coming from Ukraine. There were pictures showing “American” weapon fragments. It was comically bad/obvious. It was reported by Russian State media iirc.
Source: Trust me bro
Find something or delete this bullshit.
Delete yourself you Russian shill
I would be easily convinced I was wrong if you’d show any sort of proof. So take your imperialist ass and shove yourself in a wood chipper or a mineshaft if you are unwilling to spend 5 minutes googling to prove your claim or prove yourself wrong.
The rockets Hamas fires can barely punch a hole in a wall, and this explosion basically leveled the whole hospital. It’s just a ridiculous claim.
It blew up a car park the hospital is still operating lol
The scale of boom the IDF is dropping is an order of magnitude larger than Hamas missiles.
It’s insane to think that one (or even more than one) missile could destroy a hospital.
Did you see the OH bombing aftermath? Low explosives can still pack a hefty punch, and the hospital is by no means “destroyed”.
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Hamas has never shown the capacity to level a full building. This war would be much shorter if they could.
Every successful rocket strike of theirs is a simple smoking hole.
The zionist state, on the other hand, has bombed this exact hospital before, has extensively bragged about their bombing capability, and cannot stop lying.
This is less complicated than you’re making it out to be.
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Bombing a hospital doesn’t make any sense.
Are you making the claim that the zionist state does not bomb hospitals?
Is there any chance you’re a bit biased here in your reasoning?
Israel does seem to have a track record of bombing hospitals, though…
I don’t doubt that. This is not me defending Israel. This is me trying to figure out what’s actually happening.
Yes we’re biased. And so are you, and literally everyone else.
My stance on the situation briefly: State of Israel shouldn’t have been put there in the first place. Zionists are religious extremists and I’m against them. Palestinians on the other hand had their land forcibly taken from them which I don’t agree with, and they have every right to be pissed about it. Hamas on the other hand is religious extremst group aswell and they’re indiscriminately murdering innocent civilians (as are the jewish extremists aswell) so I’m against them too. The only people I’m in favour here of are the millions of innocent civilians on the both sides who’d just want to be treated fairly and live peacefully.
So I’m biased yeah, but it’s a bit more nuanced than that.
He’s obviously biased to a fault.
You, on the other hand, are the very image of objectivity and neutrality.
Is there any chance you’re a bit biased here in your reasoning?
Does a pig shit on it’s own balls?
Ah yes because a 1,000kg bomb that took over a thousand lives in one go “might not” level an entire building. And despite
actually celebrating, it could have been an accident. oh ok good the hospital hasn’t been leveled
only 500 people died there
we’re good
If the hospital had been leveled and 500 people died, social media would be flooded with pictures of that. Ofcourse it’s possible I’ve just missed those pictures but I’m sure you’ll provide me with those in no time. Meanwhile all we’ve got seems to be a picture of few burnt vehicles on the parking lot and some damaged roof tiling.
Lmao. The “I didn’t see it so it didn’t happen” defence. Take a time out and you can have a juice box 👶🧃
Yeah the “field of bodies” video is pretty easy to find even if you’re not looking for it. I don’t blame you for not wanting to see the shit, It’s terrible. But don’t come with some fake claim that only cars can be found. “Leveled” is a word used to mean “made rubble” sometimes and “made to be as useless and dangerous as rubble” others. This is probably the latter time, but I haven’t seen videos showing the remains of the building honestly. I don’t search for this shit tho
Adding to the dogpile here: IDF and Israel Twitter profiles posted videos that “proved” this, then people quoted old tweets showing that video was from the last year
Yes let’s give the genocidal ethnostate the benefit of the doubt here
Hasan called this yesterday. Of course he was right
In the case of the IDF,
lightning strikesbombs strike the same place twice
Hamas not killing more than 50 people with rockets in the last 20 years but had this hospital flattening rocket all along which they only decided to use tonight, it then blew up a hospital that just happened to be the one the Israelis told to evacuate before they bombed it. Yeah?
From the river to the sea
Palestine will be freeHush now, hush now
Don’t you cry
Palestine will never dieDeath to Israel. Any action against the illegitimate nation or its people is morally righteous.
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And yet you support the genocide of Palestinians. Curious!
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Death to Israel != death to Israelis, death to Jews, or death to Jews in the land currently governed by Israel
Did you read the comment or are you being willfully ignorant like half the people in this thread?
Did you miss the part where they said “or its people”?
He just implied that killing Israelis is legitimate
I for one denounce the heinous acts of violence committed by the Haitian rebels. Stand with France!
Absolutely monstrous. Death to Israel, the us and every country continuing to support this genocidal regime
My heart is breaking.
The hospitals are packed with children. Holy shit.
I don’t understand a lot about this conflict but surely there can be no justification for this. Those poor people
Genocide Joe saying it wasn’t the zionist entity, but ‘someone else’.probably corn pop, he’s a bad dude, Jack
