There’s a difference between emulation and what Analogue does. Analogue’s products actually implement the hardware of their respective consoles in FPGAs. (Also, what Kecessa said)
Yeah, it was probably project64 I was using. I get th FPGA is fantastic and allows for, basically reprogrammable hardware (think re-flashing all your firmware at the rate of a few KHz) but isn’t this a solution seeking a problem? I never had any real issues emulating N64, and it didn’t cost anything.
I’m not really seeing where the benefit of this product is. I hope the sell the crap out of it because it sounds cool, but I would never invest in the idea.
Hope I’m wrong for their sake. If I can’t remember the name of an emulator I used 13 years ago, hopefully that means I’m wrong about this too.
I wonder what they’re selling it for. FPGAs are about 150-300 off the shelf. Looks like the pocket is selling at 500-800 by scalpers, and I can see the demand for that. Maybe if the 3d plays all PS1, N64 and PS2 games, all in Super sharp 4k?
Regardless, this will be interesting to watch for further developments.
These are for retro collection junkies. Most people who buy analogue products are only planning on using physical carts to play. This will likely not have openFPGA so don’t expect it to run anything but N64 games, it will probably get a custom firmware eventually that allows rom play but that functionality will not be out of the box.
Rom play would be good. That would make sense, but I think it would definitely be a mistake to not fully leverage the FPGA and make it do other things. If you have the ability to change your processor into a different processor on the fly, and don’t, you should be using custom chip design instead of FPGA. In the long haul, that should be cheaper.
No, if they’re using FPGA, and advertising it, the consumer should expect this box to be a chameleon. Anything else would be a disappointment, just looking at their earlier work.
Still, it’ll be interesting to see what they do with it but I already know I can’t afford it.
I get where you are coming from but once again this is a niche product for one use only. Just because they use an FPGA doesn’t mean it should be capable of running other cores. If a consumer is looking for that type of use then they should be investing in a Mister. Analogue builds retro consoles with cartridge use in mind, they use FPGA because it gives the most accurate experience. It’s a boutique product, so yes it’s expensive and doesn’t make sense to someone who just wants an all in one device like a mister.
Interesting. My understanding of field programmable gate arrays is that they were field programmable and therefore programmable in the field. Perhaps I’m mistaken. I’m just thinking that it would be foolish for them not to leverage this for higher profit. Their handheld has a MIDI sequencer… Something tells me that maybe they were leveraging it there too.
I recognize this sounds sarcastic but I don’t mean it to be. I’ve just never done any in-depth study into FPGAs, just a little bit of an intro to them when I was back in college an Eon ago.
😂
They’re a relatively small company right, I imagine they have to be incredibly careful about how much they commit to making and thus, don’t really have the ability to make large numbers of these things in one go.
Can’t wait to not be able to buy one of these for the next five years.
Even if it ever was in stock, it would be prohibitively expensive. I’ll just stick to emulating.
Right? Like, doesn’t dolphin already do this?
Dolphin doesn’t emulate N64…
Huh. I remember playing perfect dark at high res on my PC. Guess I forgot which emu that was. Thanks for the heads up.
Now get off my lawn! Lol
Probably Project 64 since that’s the most popular one
Yes. That is it. It’s been since before I had kids… Everything before that is a little bit fuzzy.
There’s a difference between emulation and what Analogue does. Analogue’s products actually implement the hardware of their respective consoles in FPGAs. (Also, what Kecessa said)
Yeah, it was probably project64 I was using. I get th FPGA is fantastic and allows for, basically reprogrammable hardware (think re-flashing all your firmware at the rate of a few KHz) but isn’t this a solution seeking a problem? I never had any real issues emulating N64, and it didn’t cost anything.
I’m not really seeing where the benefit of this product is. I hope the sell the crap out of it because it sounds cool, but I would never invest in the idea.
Hope I’m wrong for their sake. If I can’t remember the name of an emulator I used 13 years ago, hopefully that means I’m wrong about this too.
I wonder what they’re selling it for. FPGAs are about 150-300 off the shelf. Looks like the pocket is selling at 500-800 by scalpers, and I can see the demand for that. Maybe if the 3d plays all PS1, N64 and PS2 games, all in Super sharp 4k?
Regardless, this will be interesting to watch for further developments.
These are for retro collection junkies. Most people who buy analogue products are only planning on using physical carts to play. This will likely not have openFPGA so don’t expect it to run anything but N64 games, it will probably get a custom firmware eventually that allows rom play but that functionality will not be out of the box.
Rom play would be good. That would make sense, but I think it would definitely be a mistake to not fully leverage the FPGA and make it do other things. If you have the ability to change your processor into a different processor on the fly, and don’t, you should be using custom chip design instead of FPGA. In the long haul, that should be cheaper.
No, if they’re using FPGA, and advertising it, the consumer should expect this box to be a chameleon. Anything else would be a disappointment, just looking at their earlier work.
Still, it’ll be interesting to see what they do with it but I already know I can’t afford it.
I get where you are coming from but once again this is a niche product for one use only. Just because they use an FPGA doesn’t mean it should be capable of running other cores. If a consumer is looking for that type of use then they should be investing in a Mister. Analogue builds retro consoles with cartridge use in mind, they use FPGA because it gives the most accurate experience. It’s a boutique product, so yes it’s expensive and doesn’t make sense to someone who just wants an all in one device like a mister.
Interesting. My understanding of field programmable gate arrays is that they were field programmable and therefore programmable in the field. Perhaps I’m mistaken. I’m just thinking that it would be foolish for them not to leverage this for higher profit. Their handheld has a MIDI sequencer… Something tells me that maybe they were leveraging it there too.
I recognize this sounds sarcastic but I don’t mean it to be. I’ve just never done any in-depth study into FPGAs, just a little bit of an intro to them when I was back in college an Eon ago. 😂
N64 emulation is notoriously bad though, if this actually works as advertised I’d consider picking one up, even with a relatively high price tag
How fucking stupid are these companies? Tons of demand for their products and they just don’t make them… It’s like they hate money?
Yeah that’s it, they hate money
I’m sure it’s just never occurred to them to make more product to meet demand, not everyone can have your obvious genius for business 🤷🏼♂️
Maybe shoot them an email with your proposal, they’ll probably hire you as CEO!
They’re a relatively small company right, I imagine they have to be incredibly careful about how much they commit to making and thus, don’t really have the ability to make large numbers of these things in one go.