My response was specifically to OP’s statement about pro-life people, and I was simply pointing out how things are viewed where I am from which might be vastly different from OP’s part of the world. If you want to take issue with that, then yes… in the US the people who call themselves “pro-life” are very much working against the health of the mothers and literally passing laws that are killing people. And every one of those laws are designed to take away the rights of women. Funny how when it involves a woman’s body they call it a “life”, but when one of those idiots jerks off it’s simply a clump of cells. And if you don’t believe this is not also a racial issue, then you haven’t been paying attention to how lop-sided these laws have been towards oppressing people of color. Take note that despite being an older white male myself, I still take great issue with the way this subject has been treated recently, and I feel the same way about how Israel has been oppressing Palestine, and the way Russia is attempting to oppress Ukraine.

And no, none of this has any business being discussed under the current thread, but you had to make an issue of it instead of reading it for what it was – simply an attempt to clarify for OP how their wording might be taken differently depending on where they are, and an explanation of what that wording means here in the US.

The analogy would work better if Palestine was an enclosed system as opposed to a wannabe independent nation that never stopped advocating terrorism to achieve those ends.

You say that as if Israel hasn’t been there since ancient times and that randomly killing oblivious civilians is the same thing as amassing a military to fight a military.

To use an analogy, suppose this were Hetalia and countries were individual human personifications who “won” territory from one another through fencing. The forces attacking Israel did the equivalent of taking a blade and slashing Israel’s eyes as he slept. That ain’t fencing. And then Russia and North Korea, who have abused Ukraine miserably because he wanted to be left alone, come to take fruits from the conflict, unquestioned by Palestine, as if by design.

After all that, and after letting terrorists infiltrate the Palestinian territory in the first place by setting up shop, again uncondemned, under their nose, I’d argue both Israel and Palestine are corrupt, but that the nation that makes a deal with the devil is moreso, but that you don’t deal with corrupt nations by killing random people unprovoked. Even if killing innocent people to achieve goals was a commonality, I still object to the many pro-Palestinian people who say it should be considered normalized because it supports their side of things.