The statement was focused on the idea that what a government does is not inherently supported or approved by its citizens in all cases. Often the citizens have no control over the actions a govt takes especially with aid or combat.
Just because Biden and his admin are approving aid doesn’t mean the West and it’s inhabitants approve.
are you delusional? the tap has been on for decades what makes you think it will be turned off soon? they’re only going to increase funding to israel
and god forbid the war escalates to lebanon and beyond, the amount of money will dwarf the ukrainian war
it’s the ukrainian tap that’s about to get turned off. israel is new priority, ukraine about to get tossed to the side. russia already making gains this week
I fully agree re. Russia and Ukraine, bad times ahead for Ukraine. Patience was wearing thin and aid to Israel is a pretty watertight excuse for shrugging off Ukraine right now.
I’m not delusional though, and you don’t need to jump to such ad hominem attacks with someone arguing with you politely and in good faith.
I stand by my comments about US and other funding for Israel being on the timer, but perhaps “soon” is ungrounded. I can point to a groundswell in anger and revulsion among younger generations (who already bridled at their arguments against Israeli state support being dismissed as anti-semitic) as the Israeli state is showing how exactly they will employ all the weapons and armaments sent their way for so long.
Hamas has few friends in the west, and is not set to make many at the moment, but the plight of the people in Gaza, both historical and current, is getting passed around in gory gifs right now. Hearts and minds will, at some point, translate to votes, which will manifest in policy change.
Of course, by the time it does, Bibi+cronies will probably have exiled/killed the entire civilian and armed population of Gaza, so the point may well be moot, I fear
i apologize for the delusional comment. it just seemed to me like a crazy thing to say, but you’re right there’s no need for that type of attitude
i understand where you’re coming from. many videos have already been shared of palestinian civilians getting blown up for no good reason other than being inconvenient for israel
however, i think it is a bit naive to believe this will change anything. believe me, i don’t say this to try and insult you. i think if majority of people thought like you did we probably wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with. but the world runs on a simple philosophy - might makes right.
israel has been abusing these people for nearly half a century. they’ve been killing and bombing them with impunity and the US and friends have been sending billions of dollars to Israel in order to help this process. they will not stop until the ethnic cleansing is complete and the US will support them all of the way there.
just look at the response in europe right now. both germany and france have banned pro-palestinian protests. fairly soon i expect to see social media start to become censored. reddit already started removing certain videos
No reason to shut off aid to Ukraine. We can operate in multiple theaters at once. That’s the point of outspending the next 12 countries on our military. If anything, this makes it easier as the Dems will bundle Israeli and Ukrainian aid, and the Republicans just flipped back to hawks.
there’s only so much industrial capacity we have available. bullets and bombs don’t just materialize out of thin air, no matter how much money you throw at it. triage will be performed and ukraine is not a priority any longer. israel is key to american strategy in the middle east. ukraine is an afterthought, only supported because it was a cheap way to harm russia.
Biden just announced another funding for Israel
Everything comes down to Florida. Always does.
The statement was focused on the idea that what a government does is not inherently supported or approved by its citizens in all cases. Often the citizens have no control over the actions a govt takes especially with aid or combat.
Just because Biden and his admin are approving aid doesn’t mean the West and it’s inhabitants approve.
Wilford Brimley?
The israeli state had better make the most of it while they can. I’m sure they will. The tap will be turned off soon.
are you delusional? the tap has been on for decades what makes you think it will be turned off soon? they’re only going to increase funding to israel
and god forbid the war escalates to lebanon and beyond, the amount of money will dwarf the ukrainian war
it’s the ukrainian tap that’s about to get turned off. israel is new priority, ukraine about to get tossed to the side. russia already making gains this week
I fully agree re. Russia and Ukraine, bad times ahead for Ukraine. Patience was wearing thin and aid to Israel is a pretty watertight excuse for shrugging off Ukraine right now.
I’m not delusional though, and you don’t need to jump to such ad hominem attacks with someone arguing with you politely and in good faith.
I stand by my comments about US and other funding for Israel being on the timer, but perhaps “soon” is ungrounded. I can point to a groundswell in anger and revulsion among younger generations (who already bridled at their arguments against Israeli state support being dismissed as anti-semitic) as the Israeli state is showing how exactly they will employ all the weapons and armaments sent their way for so long.
Hamas has few friends in the west, and is not set to make many at the moment, but the plight of the people in Gaza, both historical and current, is getting passed around in gory gifs right now. Hearts and minds will, at some point, translate to votes, which will manifest in policy change.
Of course, by the time it does, Bibi+cronies will probably have exiled/killed the entire civilian and armed population of Gaza, so the point may well be moot, I fear
i apologize for the delusional comment. it just seemed to me like a crazy thing to say, but you’re right there’s no need for that type of attitude
i understand where you’re coming from. many videos have already been shared of palestinian civilians getting blown up for no good reason other than being inconvenient for israel
however, i think it is a bit naive to believe this will change anything. believe me, i don’t say this to try and insult you. i think if majority of people thought like you did we probably wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with. but the world runs on a simple philosophy - might makes right.
israel has been abusing these people for nearly half a century. they’ve been killing and bombing them with impunity and the US and friends have been sending billions of dollars to Israel in order to help this process. they will not stop until the ethnic cleansing is complete and the US will support them all of the way there.
just look at the response in europe right now. both germany and france have banned pro-palestinian protests. fairly soon i expect to see social media start to become censored. reddit already started removing certain videos
No reason to shut off aid to Ukraine. We can operate in multiple theaters at once. That’s the point of outspending the next 12 countries on our military. If anything, this makes it easier as the Dems will bundle Israeli and Ukrainian aid, and the Republicans just flipped back to hawks.
there’s only so much industrial capacity we have available. bullets and bombs don’t just materialize out of thin air, no matter how much money you throw at it. triage will be performed and ukraine is not a priority any longer. israel is key to american strategy in the middle east. ukraine is an afterthought, only supported because it was a cheap way to harm russia.