Well yea, every area that suffers long wars suffers from that. In Niger 50% of the population is under 15. I saw so many kids looking for work it hurt my soul.
Poverty in the US is a solvable joke by comparison.
Maybe I don’t know, don’t bring more people into the world if they live on a literal battlefield?
I don’t even want to bring kids into america right now. I can’t imagine how selfish one would have to be to bring a child into a warzone where their life expectancy is half the norm and they will suffer the entire time.
They aren’t having more sex. You have 18 years to be a child, and then another ~60 to die. At low life expectancy, the chances of you being a child is very high.
I can tell you’re one of the people who never fights back because it’s easier to surrender.
I don’t think it’s good or helpful to make conclusions about that person.
It’s reasonable to not bring children into a bad economy… if you can afford to not have them and have lots more to fulfill you.
It’s not reasonable, though, to go around judging people by whether or not they have had a child because of a situation that is totally out of control. Palestinians would easily lose the fight when outnumbered. No one is making “soldier babies” or anything like that – these are just children who deserve a good existence and not an open-air prison.
This person doesn’t want kids, kudos to them, I can’t wait for the day when the last human goes extinct but this is a totally different issue.
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
So who will be the one to blame?
A normal human being getting married and having kids VS a genocidal ethnostate that wants to ethnically cleanse the natives of the land?
Would it have been morally wrong for Jews during Nazi Germany to have kids? Maybe Anne Frank should have just not been born so we can prevent her suffering?!? Come on.
First of all, thank you Snek for having a reasonable and adult discussion. And thanks to whoever cleaned up this thread (my shit included, even if the wafflehouse bit was hilarious).
I’m not really looking at this as who to point a finger at. In terms of having kids, it’s a risk/reward analysis. This is just my opinion, and I’ve never implied it’s the only right answer. But me personally; if I was living somewhere under threat of being attacked, I would not feel comfortable bringing a child into that environment.
If someone brings a child into the world and someone else dropped a bomb on that child, would I say it’s the parents fault? No, of course not. Will that parent be devastated? Yes. Will that parent have put blood, money and love into something that’s how gone? Yes. Will that parent spend the rest of their life feeling guilty about what happened? Probably. Do I personally want to put myself into that position? Hell no!
But that’s me and my opinion. Like I said earlier, parenthood is hard as it is right now. Nevermind climate change…
Gaza has a population of 2+ million and HALF those are under 18? What? That’s a crazy statistic.
Well yea, every area that suffers long wars suffers from that. In Niger 50% of the population is under 15. I saw so many kids looking for work it hurt my soul.
Poverty in the US is a solvable joke by comparison.
That’s what war and siege does. People lose children a lot so they have more children.
This is what it means to live in Gaza:
Edit: source https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_Palestine
Maybe I don’t know, don’t bring more people into the world if they live on a literal battlefield? I don’t even want to bring kids into america right now. I can’t imagine how selfish one would have to be to bring a child into a warzone where their life expectancy is half the norm and they will suffer the entire time.
You live in the most sheltered country in the world and somehow have a very in depth perspective for what it’s like to live in a battlefield?
Yeah those damn Palestinians should just self-genocide because of the genocide happening to them! selfish, smh
/s
Are you trying to argue that a battlefield is a place to raise a child? 😂
It’s only a battlefield when Israel makes it into one, and Israel hasn’t invaded Gaza for something like 20 years.
You’re cringe
They aren’t having more sex. You have 18 years to be a child, and then another ~60 to die. At low life expectancy, the chances of you being a child is very high.
That’s literally how the other side kills your genetic line.
I can tell you’re one of the people who never fights back because it’s easier to surrender.
I don’t think it’s good or helpful to make conclusions about that person. It’s reasonable to not bring children into a bad economy… if you can afford to not have them and have lots more to fulfill you. It’s not reasonable, though, to go around judging people by whether or not they have had a child because of a situation that is totally out of control. Palestinians would easily lose the fight when outnumbered. No one is making “soldier babies” or anything like that – these are just children who deserve a good existence and not an open-air prison.
This person doesn’t want kids, kudos to them, I can’t wait for the day when the last human goes extinct but this is a totally different issue.
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
So who will be the one to blame? A normal human being getting married and having kids VS a genocidal ethnostate that wants to ethnically cleanse the natives of the land?
Would it have been morally wrong for Jews during Nazi Germany to have kids? Maybe Anne Frank should have just not been born so we can prevent her suffering?!? Come on.
First of all, thank you Snek for having a reasonable and adult discussion. And thanks to whoever cleaned up this thread (my shit included, even if the wafflehouse bit was hilarious).
I’m not really looking at this as who to point a finger at. In terms of having kids, it’s a risk/reward analysis. This is just my opinion, and I’ve never implied it’s the only right answer. But me personally; if I was living somewhere under threat of being attacked, I would not feel comfortable bringing a child into that environment.
If someone brings a child into the world and someone else dropped a bomb on that child, would I say it’s the parents fault? No, of course not. Will that parent be devastated? Yes. Will that parent have put blood, money and love into something that’s how gone? Yes. Will that parent spend the rest of their life feeling guilty about what happened? Probably. Do I personally want to put myself into that position? Hell no!
But that’s me and my opinion. Like I said earlier, parenthood is hard as it is right now. Nevermind climate change…
Thanks for clarifying
Me too, I wouldn’t either (heck I’m not even having kids in normal circumstances)
Climate change is also another (quite good) reason to clean up the planet and empty the orphanages first…
I’m guessing condoms aren’t readily available in Gaza.
They have a life expectancy of 74, which isn’t really that bad. Egypt has like 71?
That’s the life expectancy for the entire Palestinian population, not Gaza. In Gaza, only 2.6% (as of 2018) made it to retirement age (65 or above).
I’m just going by the numbers Snek posted.
That’s better than the US isn’t it?