The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

  • derf82@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    1 year ago

    These were companies that chose to attend aaa event on getting women in tech. You really think they are discriminating against women? Did they not show up there specifically to recruit women?

    In any case, it is ridiculous to blame men for the crime of job hunting. The fact is there are fewer women in STEM because fewer women go into STEM. I am an engineer. When I graduated, 16 men and 2 women joined me in getting a BSCE. This isn’t an isolated experience. Note this quote:

    When considering university and VET together, in 2018 women comprised only 21% of total STEM course enrolments and 23% of total STEM course completions. In comparison, women comprised 60% of total non-STEM course enrolments and 61% of total non-STEM course completions in 2018.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/03/gender-gap-in-stem-not-due-to-womens-lack-of-confidence/

    When nearly 4 out of 5 STEM students are male (when more women now go to college overall than men), it is no surprise there are more men in STEM.

    • stopthatgirl7@kbin.socialOP
      24·
      1 year ago

      The fact is there are fewer women in STEM because fewer women go into STEM.

      And of course, that has nothing to do with the discrimination women face even trying to get into STEM, and how men actively try to push them out while they’re still students! That’s not at all indicative of a systemic and well-known problem at all!

      I am not at all surprised that an apparent tech bro does not see how tech bros stepping over women is a problem.

      • derf82@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        1 year ago

        How do men push them out while students? You generalize a lot. I certainly never have.

        And I am no tech bro. I just don’t get how you can deem a man sexist for trying to get a job.

        • stopthatgirl7@kbin.socialOP
          21·
          1 year ago

          If you’ve ever talked to women in tech, they’ll tell you how badly they were treated by male students and sometimes even by teachers, trying to get them to wash out. Literally talk to any woman in tech.

          But I kinda suspect they won’t actually tell you, because we know from experience how a certain type of dude will minimize and try to rationalize away everything we say, so we won’t talk to dudes like that about it.

          • Kalash@feddit.ch
            11·
            1 year ago

            If you’ve ever talked to women in tech, they’ll tell you how badly they were treated by male students and sometimes even by teachers, trying to get them to wash out.

            I’m from Germany and after graduating from highschool, if you have sufficent grades you can choose to take another 3 years of school for a better diploma. These extra 3 years are often specialised for some topics, for example IT.

            Now, there are no IT lessons in regular highschool. We did learn how to type, but that was about it. So there is really no way that women could have “pushed out” of IT in anyway, because it was never a subject.

            Yet, of the roughly 120 studends that signed up for IT school, there were about 7 women.

            Seems like there must be some other reason, because they definitly weren’t pushed out by other students or teachers.