I’m out of the loop. What did they do now?
Apple could potentially force users to use a proprietary apple USB c charger instead of any random one. This can be done via a lockout chip inside of the cable itself that only apple produces and is already done on apples lightning cable (super cheap sketchy cables may not charge or have features missing).
Additionally the USB c port on iPhones will only run on USB 2.0 speeds, a standard from the year 2000 (yes, 23 years ago).
I don’t expect them to do that, much too easy to get slapped down on by the EU. I do expect that non-Apple/MFI chargers are USB 2.0, and I do expect are limited to slow charging and might come with a nasty-gram in the OS when using one. I lean against the nasty-gram as you can use some shit-ass lightning cables and iOS doesn’t generally care, but the other two I would say are near certain. What will be real fucky is if they don’t have a faster data transfer speed at all.
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Universal* Serial Bus
Wow, what shitheads.
What if i told you Im pretty sure most of your usb devices run on those “23 year old” speeds?
Most of my USB devices isn’t a $1000+ brand new handheld computer though.
Sure, I expect it if I buy a cheap USB device. But if I’m paying hundreds of dollars for the device that I use daily? Having even slightly more modern speeds is a requirement for me
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I kind of suspect that people who transfer their photos and music and whatnot over, manually, are very much in the minority compared to people who stream and use a cloud hosted photo app. And I’d suspect that a good handful of those that care enough to backup their files locally probably has OwnCloud or something similar running.
That said, such a shitty move. I can’t imagine it would be that much more bothersome to support high speeds, on a modern device. It is more than likely an ulterior motive to get those people to assimilate or leave, and then phase out the plug entirely, a move that will be mocked by every major Android manufacturer only to have it on all their flagship models a year or two later.
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You’d be wrong
USB 3.0 and 3.1 are jank and produce RFI, so using 2.0 is an excellent idea. USB 3.1 could cause interference with Bluetooth.
Edit: I literally work with this stuff for a living, but downvote me… It’s fine.
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Bluetooth is 2.4 GHz.
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Every other manufacturer has found a way to make it work
Apple will have a USB-C connector (capable of fast charging tech), but will only support slow 5V charging (for most non-apple chargers?)…
is this confirmed or just a rumor? can’t find any sources atm
It’s false information. It will support fast charging but have slow data transfer.
Who uses a cable for data transfer anymore anyway though
It’s faster than network data transfer. I don’t know exactly how fast can WiFi go, but most if the time it can’t even exceed 1Gbps. However, USB-C 4 V2 can reach 80 Gbps, and isn’t all that affected by electromagnetic interference.
For transfering a few photos, you won’t notice a difference. But if you need to back up a 256 GB phone, the difference in speed is actually big.
I guess so, I don’t see much reason why I’d need to back up my whole phone in this day and age though, photos documents and notes are all backed up through syncthing/Google photos and that runs in the background constantly so not like I’m waiting
Contacts, installed apps and I believe some settings are backed up to my Google account and will follow me without even thinking about it
I guess game save data but personally I don’t play games on my phone anymore anyway so that’s not a big deal for me
Could quite happily wipe my phone tomorrow and be back up and running with all my data within 30 mins max and have never needed to plug it in
Most people do what you say, but there are places where you don’t have a stable internet connection, or people who like to keep their storage offline.
I don’t mean to say that there are no alternatives to a fast cable, or that most people should use it. But it’s a feature that comes with the cable, and there shouldn’t be someone trying to cap it just for profit.
The controllers for the communication protocol probably cost something like 8 cents, Apple shouldn’t screw their customers over that little cost. Even with a feature most people won’t use, because it’s nice knowing that you have the possibility to use it if you need to.
I mean whether or not many people use it it’s still shitty
Nope, me neither.
This is wrong. The iPhone must comply with Power Delivery at 100W and must use USB-C. It’s the EU reglementation. Now,the trick can be they don’t follow this outside the EU.
Honestly, I find this preferable. I only charge at night and a battery that charges slowly lasts longer.
It’s not preferable at all.
They’re purposefully crippling a $1000+ product.
You’re free to buy a slow charger for $8 on Amazon, there’s tons of solutions for that.
There’s no solution for garbage hardware
my samsung galaxy s10 had an option to turn off fast charging in settings (for wireless too)
Though i guess you should be used to that already if you buy apple shit
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Most of Apple users I’ve met master the art of turning Apple’s crap decisions into features and advantages over the competition.
I lost all faith in those folks being reasonable.
My pixel does this
I really wish we had the capability to stop charging early. I’d love to leave my phone plugged in for crazy long periods, but only keep the battery at like 70%. This way it wouldn’t degrade performance from the batteries being left at full charge.
Are you sure you don’t already have something like this? My android is a couple years old, but has always let me charge to only 85%
It’s not a feature commonly found in AOSP ROMs, in my experience.
That’s unfortunate, I guess. I mean, even though I do have my phone set to only charge up to 85%, I don’t really know if this is battery protective or not.
Is it?
I just enabled the option because the description of the feature claimed it to be. I haven’t researched this at all
Yeah, or just a slow charger next to bed? Who doesn’t have a charter next to bed? Especially a slow one costs nothing.
Definitely wouldn’t want to give up PD speeds to top up during the day. Well, I would give them up if I didn’t have to top up during the day.
Wait, you can set phones to charge slowly?
You can even set the cable!
If you find that preferable, you’d love the Pixel then. You can turn it on and off as you please.
https://screenrant.com/use-adaptive-charging-pixel-7-how/
Also if you’re using an official Apple USB-C charging cable on an iPhone, you can expect that it will charge at full speed (overnight or not).
And if you’re at a friend’s house and they have any other Android phone on Earth, the fast charging cable that they use to resuscitate their own Android phone from 10% to 50% in 15 mins and will take your (much more pricey) iPhone 50 minutes.
And the overpriced iPhone cable that charges those iPhones fast, will charge any Android phone fast.
At the minimum, you should understand that you’re the one getting the shit end of the stick. Don’t explain how it’s so convenient for you to get the shit end of the stick, that’s what let’s manufacturers keep getting away with this anti-consumer bullshit.
Step 1: Deliberately throttle USB C on non-pro models to convince users USB C is bad. Step 2: Release the iPhone 15. Step 3: iPhone 15 Sales plummet because of poor reviews. Step 3: iPhone 15 Sales plummet because of poor reviews.
Step 4: Increase the price because die-hard fans will still buy it
Step 5: profit
Yeah if the cable ist USB-C to lightning.
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Apple would rather take a fine than complying tho.
Even if that fine is 10% of their yearly revenue? I doubt it…
Depends. But they’ve done it before.
Oh, cool. It’s LG all over again.
I’m waiting for the bad faith at the keynote. It will be funny.
The irony is that I have a bunch of lightning cables because I’ve been using an iPhone with AirPods for years. So when I finally upgrade, a bunch of my old cables will end up as e-waste.
or you could give them to someone who still uses an iPhone with a lightning connector. You could even sell them.
Shhhhh, don’t talk logic. You can only throw perfectly working stuff in the dump. Giving it ? What’s next ? Become a communist scum ? Hell, No ! Selling it ? That would make apple poor shareholders sad…
I could. But the irony still stands that by Apple being forced to change connectors I’m going to have to go out and buy new cables. Honestly, though, I agree with the EU, this is a change that Apple should have done sooner. They were one of the first computer companies to completely dump the old USB connector in their laptops for the space saving. I wish they would have moved to USB-C across the board at that point.
From what I’ve heard, they were holding out to try to move from Lightning connectors to completely wireless charging with no ports.
Well you buy apple products so you already had a bunch of e-waste
Is that any different from any other company that sells electronics, except perhaps Fairphone?
No it’s not any different.
Hey, just like 30 pin cables.
Why just waste them? If they still work, either sell them on for a few pennies or whatever their condition is, donate them to others who’d still use them or pass them out for free.Or, I know you can in the UK, not sure aboit other countries, but i imagine EU countries would have this, and Americas probably should, but just recycle them.
Apple also switched connectors. So apple is also evil and makes ewaste. Stupid arguments stab you in the foot.
If you think like this you could never chance a single thing. People coming from android will be able to use the same cables, people changing vice versa will also be able to use the same cables. People can use the old cables with old phones until they brake and they will brake sooner or later.
