• Furbag@lemmy.world
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    This seems like a huge win for Niemann. I remember Legal Eagle’s video on it and he made it seem like Niemann didn’t have much of a case for defamation. Him getting a settlement of having his critics withdraw their accusations of cheating, getting his account reinstated on chess.com and being able to play in future over-the-board tournaments is just about the best settlement he could have hoped for.

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      He didnt have much for the case of defamation, which is why he lost that case against Magnus. It is however fair that Magnus has no proof for him cheating in OTB matches, and keeping that up without proper evidence could end up in a successfull defamation lawsuit.

      This doesnt necessarily change anything for OTB tournaments, which are regulated by FIDE, who had the report on their investigation postponed until October (I believe).

      I agree it is wild his chess.com account was reinstated after their report in which they claimed to have proof for iirc hundreds of times cheating in online matches!

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        they claimed to have proof for iirc hundreds of times cheating in online matches!

        They merely stated his play was, across many games, indistinguishable from a cheater, they didn’t have actual hard proof that he was cheating.

        If they had actual proof they wouldn’t have needed to settle

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            It’s a bit more nuanced than that. Chess engines exist, and computers have the ability to always make the most correct move given the current board state 100% of the time, even when viable alternatives exist. That’s how they tend to catch cheaters. If you’re out of book moves and making engine optimal moves every turn, there’s a strong suspicion that you are using a computer to cheat. Even Grandmasters play sub-optimal moves, so when novices come out swinging with near-100% accuracy on their scorecard, it raises a lot of alarm bells.

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      1 year ago

      No it was definitely real, but Danny Devito’s portrayal of the event was freaking hilarious, watching Frank lose his mind in pain from a vibrating butt plug was not something I ever expected, that whole scene had me hysterical laughing.

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        Oh wow I gotta catch up to the current seasons. That was one of the best scenes I’ve seen from the show yet.

        Still 4 seasons behind lol. Only just got to the pool AIDS episode.

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      One way to cheat at Chess is to get information from the outside from computers. A particularly fool proof way of hiding something is in the good old prison pocket. When Hans Niemann was accused of cheating, a lot of people wondered if he had used this particular method. Several prototypes were then made and used to prove the concept.

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        Those confused, it would work with some kind of vibration code. It doesn’t need to be elaborate - just a code to look at a certain square. If he takes longer than 15 seconds or something, someone would be looking at a computer to calculate the best move, then vibrate the code of the square that it would move to. That’s all they would need to figure out what to do.

        For example: E6 - bzz bzz bzz bzz bzz - (Pause) - bzz bzz bzz bzz bzz bzz

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          Or just buz if you should take, no buz if you shouldn’t take. There isn’t much input needed in top level play.

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            Maybe not your source but I heard this from Hikaru Nakamura, in case anyone wants a source.

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        Don’t you watch chess matches? Meaning we would see someone pulling something out of his ass and then trying to make sense of what scribbles were still legible through all the shit smears