• Margot Robbie@lemm.ee
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    The other day, I saw an A-list Hollywood actress going around Lemmy shitposting and promoting her latest movie on Lemmy.

    She’s obviously very talented and very hot and deserves to finally get an Oscar this year, but I would say it’s pretty bizzare.

    Also she’s now the top mod of !android@lemmy.world for some reason.

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      Leftists who think, if I don’t subscribe to their narrow, personal definition of leftism, I must be an epistemically evil conservative maniac with no middle ground whatsoever.

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      It’s an oversimplified anarchist talking point against authoritarianism and the state. It’s noting the similarities between conservative talking points and auth-left socialist rhetoric. Basically, almost everything you criticize about capitalism can be applied to the state. And defenses for the state from auth-left socialists sounds an awful lot like right wing talking points in defense of capitalism/imperialism/insertotherismhere. Not to mention, the USSR was pretty socially conservative and that’s a big mark against them imo. Liberatory politics should liberate people, after all

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      I can sort of see where they’re coming from, if they’re equating authoritarianism to conservatism and libertarianism to liberalism. But in reality, Stalin was a left wing authoritarian.

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        If we look at the rhetoric, the soviet state was certainly left wing, but the main policy was state capitalism. To my mind, state capitalism is not a right wing (favors private control of industry) nor a left wing (favors worker control of industry) policy.

        This is definitely a case where pure left/right dichotomy doesn’t serve to accurately describe the situation on the ground.

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      Also usernames that are just emojis. That’s just so odd. I’m not even sure how to think of their username in terms of pronouncing it.

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    A post touting rural and suburban North Korea as a capitalist-free, pedestrian friendly utopia full of happy people.

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    The CIA setting up a base of operations on here and strawmanning the left. You can even see it here already. Well, I suppose the CIA disrupting leftist spaces isn’t all that bizarre.

  • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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    This reply you’re reading right now being downvoted to oblivion using a supposedly unwanted karma system.

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      Expressing our dislike is not the same as the karma system. My profile does not have a score that communities will use to discriminate against me and stifle my comments because I’m not popular enough. We should be able to express our dislike without having a giant thread of arguments over it.

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        Exactly; the main point of karma for Reddit doesn’t apply here, and there are options in apps to just show total score.

        I use downvotes for two things: the person was, needlessly, a jackass, regardless of whether they’re right, or they’re wrong in such a way that I don’t have the energy/ability to sort that out (or just trolling). I’m sure others do the same for me, and that information should be available to others.

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            You can change that to New and hide read comments. Or just keep scrolling and read comments as they are. Organization that can be changed is different from not even being able to comment.

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              Yeah, it’s not like there are many comments on Lemmy anyways.

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                Besides sorting by age or number of replies, how else would you sort comments, and is that any better than using user generated scores?

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                  It was never that I minded Lemmy’s karma system (assuming such a thing wasn’t in the wrong hands), it’s that, if others were said to have minded, you would’ve never guessed that if you signed up today, based on how it’s visibly used. Personally I always sort comments based on how new it is, with new ones showing at the top. I do this on every website I’m on, as well as upvote everything I interact with for memory’s sake. The thing is when you have any popularity-based system is, what exactly is being represented? Sometimes I go somewhere and the most popular example of something is at the top based on no discernable values, which also sometimes suggests something was amiss. How does one please anyone/anything where the interests are inconsistent? This problem does not exist on Reddit.

                  Also to note is that Reddit’s karma system, which includes the added user-generated score system on their profile that a subreddit can use to vet people, has served as a good tool against people making a presence only for the purpose of an agenda, whether it be marketing or targeting. It also was more complex than simply “upvote to nod, downvote to shake your head”. Reddit has things in place to prevent weaponization. Here it’s relatively simple.

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        How is this so? Everyone here has a karma score. I see mine, and everyone else’s when I look at their profile.

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        Comments are still sorted on a post based on its points, hence it’s technically karmic. And would ya look at that, the seemingly-innocent-enough (to not expect fate to oblige) comment was no joke. It’s almost as if the originating source of visibly expressed opinion on a predictive basis works for me.

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            But for those with the points-based sorting turned on, the effect will be the same for the person who has made comments for the very reason that there are those out there viewing them based on popularity. Karma posting requirements on Reddit aside, the same can be said about Reddit’s post popularity system.

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              Karma was more than just how many points your post or comment got, it was a system that was used against users and was meant to stifle discourse in the name of popularity. Being able to sort a post by highest voted comments is an option, but that does not come close to being a karma system. It’s a small similarity. I feel like of all the things to not like about Lemmy, upvotes is pretty small beans.

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      Kids need karma to post or comment I guess. It’s gamification of social media.

      I would have had points for each comments in a post, so it’s possible to order based on that, but absolutely no karma tied to accounts.