If proprietary app is better and more robust I am willing to try it and assess it myself.

    • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      3·
      1 year ago

      Thank you!

      I’d been a happy user of andOTP for many years, unaware until now that it had been abandoned and that I therefore needed ro replace it. I looked through the recommendations posted here and came to the conclusion that Aegis indeed was the best recommendation.

      Migrating from andOTP to Aegis by exporting an encrypted backup file from andOTP to the local filesystem and importing it in Aegis worked flawlessly.

      One thing that I really liked in andOTP that Aegis doesn’t have was the PGP export, it was just very nice to get encrypted backup files that I could decrypt directly using standard software that I already have and know how to use, entirely independent from any particular app. Aegis instead provides the decrypt.py script to decode and decrypt its own encrypted backup file format and while I’ve tested and verified that this works fine, simply using standard PGP was nicer.

      But that’s a minor detail. All in all, Aegis seems to do everything I need, and does it well.

    • morrowind@lemmy.ml
      2·
      1 year ago

      One of those apps that just does its job, does it well and I never have to worry about it

  • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
    21·
    1 year ago

    I’d suggest the following

    The really important step is to make sure to export and backup your 2FA codes in a safe place.

    You don’t want to be left in the mud because you lost or wiped your phone that contains the only method to get into your important accounts.

  • GadgeteerZA@beehaw.orgEnglish
    19·
    1 year ago

    Bitwarden and it’s fully cross-platform. I like that it auto copies the 2FA pin to clipboard after filling in login - cuts out extra clicks and copy movements.

    • gressen@lemm.ee
      2·
      1 year ago

      “Authenticator key (TOTP) storage is available to all accounts. TOTP code generation requires premium or membership to a paid organization (families, teams, or enterprise).”

          • CrescentMadeJr@beehaw.org
            1·
            1 year ago

            I’m aware. So is Bitwarden if you don’t use their web vault, which KeepassXC does not have. Keepass can use a cloud drive to sync multiple devices whereas Bitwarden requires a self hosted instance to sync. Personally I would rather trust my own hosted instance over that of a cloud provider. But that all depends on your threat model and who you’re willing to trust. Having used both I personally prefer self hosted Bitwarden.

            • blkpws@lemmy.ml
              1·
              1 year ago

              I suppose you didn’t try or know that KeePass also has web clients, https://github.com/lgg/awesome-keepass#web-clients

              Never tried them, I still think it’s safer to self-host the vault file on my own hosting cloud with some extra paranoid encryption just to be sure it’s safe even if my self-cloud hosting is hacked. But I am just scared to lose this one day and I not be able to log into my services anymore. 🤣

              I know people Bitwarden and seems cool, but I don’t see the need for it.

              • CrescentMadeJr@beehaw.org
                1·
                1 year ago

                I know they exist. I think you’re missing what I’m saying.

                Bitwarden is fully free and self hostable. That is how I use it. Bitwarden needs a self hosted webserver. KeePass can use only a cloud provider or self hosted cloud storage and also set up a web vault.

                With Bitwarden, if you don’t want that hassle you can use their webvault they host. You cannot do that with keepass. That is what costs the $10/year.

                Point is, both are good software that do things a bit differently. I liked KeePass, but I found Bitwarden to do what I wanted better, which was easily sync my passwords across devices without the hassle of self hosting something like Nextcloud. A quick docker container and I’m good.

                Maybe some people are fine with keepass and something like Dropbox for sync. And maybe others don’t want to use a public cloud server but also don’t know how or want to host their own instance of a a password manager or cloud server. So they can use something like Bitwarden’s webvault instead, which is free except for TOTP.

                • blkpws@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  Well, I still don’t see the difference, you can run Nextcloud with docker too, with many more tools than just sync folders, even with encrypted data it is still sync to others devices. About Android, I don’t even remember to charge the battery (that’s why I don’t use it for 2FA, many times it is off and battery empty), and I don’t use it unless I need to drive (for GPS + Music, and de-googled), if I need any password on my Android I use KDEConnect to copy-paste logins, so I keep my secret vaults away from smartphone. I don’t think smartphones are that safe to use and store all my passwords.

                  EDIT: Ok, I can understand people that don’t know how to set up their own services could find that Bitwarden easier. $10/year is very cheap.

          • Itookmyprozac@lemmy.mlEnglish
            0·
            1 year ago

            This!

            Keepassxc is cross-platform, free and open-source. It has also options for iOS and Android.

            • CrescentMadeJr@beehaw.orgEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              Bitwarden is all of those things. Unless you use their web vault, then it’s $10/year. Which keepassxc does not have.

    • lud@lemm.ee
      1·
      1 year ago

      Kinda makes two factor authentication useless as they are both stored in the same place.

      • GadgeteerZA@beehaw.orgEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I think it is more about passwords being accessible after hacks etc. What you are referring to, is if Bitwarden were to be hacked, both are accessible. Online Bitwarden has securely hashed all the data, so that is pretty useless if anyone gets it. On my devices I use biometric login, and on desktop a Yubiky as 2FA into Bitwarden. I also have it set to request login every time the browser is restarted, just in case someone were to steal the session data from the browser.

        But your point is very valid if a user were to have a weak password for their Bitwarden, or not to have a good 2FA for their Bitwarden login. You want to keep that basket of eggs as safe as you can.

        • lud@lemm.ee
          11·
          1 year ago

          The whole point of 2FA is for them to be completely separate.

          • GadgeteerZA@beehaw.orgEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            But if the access to the combination of the two requires a separate 2FA (my Yubikey), then it is virtually separated. It is not just one password and you inside Bitwarden. One could argue otherwise, that having a 2FA app on the same phone as your password manager, is also not separate, if the same PIN/biometric gives access to that phone with the two apps on.

  • voxel@sopuli.xyz
    5·
    1 year ago

    aegis is great, but 2fas has Google Drive sync and a browser extension.
    lack of sync is a dealbreaker for me.