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Lmao Linus immediately jumped back into the “we’re only human, feel bad for us” thing
Yeah, I couldn’t watch past Yvonne’s section, it just felt like a corporate ad tbh.
Then you missed where they dropped an opportunity to show a new screwdriver variant coming to LLTStore.com 🤦
Don’t forget to subscribe to Floatplane for the exclusives!
…and the finale Debrand name dropping …
This is why adblock and sponsorblock are essential. I haven’t seen any of that crap in years.
I was just thinking about how theres almost no gradient between what makes you a “quirky and fun small business” which they want to act like and “oh shit better put on our IBM corporate hats and make another video”
Once again he comes out with deflections and excuses.
Put your ego aside for one second and take this one humbly on the chin.
The “haha, we’ve made an oopsie” tone of the video (sponsorship jokes, plugging their store link, deflecting to “I’m just a human” instead of fully taking the blame) don’t sit right with me. I was also hoping they would address Madison’s comments on why she quit.
I think Madison’s post happened after the video itself was planned, recorded, etc, so it’s understandable why that’s not addressed. But Linus really has to address what she’s said on the forums ASAP at least, because there’s a lot of damning claims towards his company from her. Like seriously, wtf Linus?
Also, they should stop deleting all mentionings of the Madison thing on the apology video as they doing are now, makes it all seem very disingenuous and fake.
Can confirm. They appear to be doing it manually, so lots are still up (for now), but entire threads are being disappeared.
It should be it’s own topic of discussion. It makes sense why they’re trying to control the comments on that video specifically.
Given his responses so far, he’s probably just going to dig his hole even further.
To quote poetry:
Uwu We made a fucky wucky!!
A wittle fucko boingo!
The code monkeys at our headquarters are working VEWY HAWD to fix this!
Sex joke?
“6 9s”
Yeah I get the various other critiques others have for this video but complaining about the “potential sex jokes” is a stretch.
Agreed
This situation sucks and was something I would have been willing to see through. But after reading the thread from Madison this morning I’ve decided to cancel my Floatplane subscription. While the accusations she makes are currently accusations, they’re pretty damning and worth taking seriously in case they are more than allegations. I await LMG’s response to her thread, as I feel that will be the deciding factor in whether or not I continue to consume and support anything LMG does going forward.
Her thread: https://twitter.com/suuuoppp/status/1691693740254228741
Gonna pop the ThreadReader link here for those who don’t want to log into Twitter: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741.html
On the Floatplane thing, I am a bit worried for DankPods, who put a lot of backing into Floatplane after he got screwed over by Twitch. This whole thing might have some collateral damage towards the other creators on there, including him. Was considering subscribing to Floatplane for him and his drum streams before this.
I may not agree with a lot of things Madison does as a content creator, but what she’s described in that thread is absolutely egregious. This goes so far beyond “trust me bro”, and is already bathing in the gas that the company is actively lighting under them. Makes me wonder what kind of NDA and contract all of them have, to keep it hush-hush. I’m worried for the people there
DankPods is the only reason why I’d consider using Floatplane, but I’ve already been a Patron of his for a long time and could just up my tier sub if I wanted to support him more, which I may do if this effects his streams.
Ah shit, I forgot how much dank went in on floatplane
Thank you for this, I don’t normally use twitter but I read some people saying the Threadreader app wasn’t up to date with all the comments.
Maybe Dankpods can get into the Nebula sphere instead.
Ha, Nebula is not the answer, either. It’s a gated community that doesn’t even have a way to sign up as an uploader. They expect you to make it on YouTube first before they consider moving to their network, and then you’re doomed to constantly advertise for Nebula for the rest of your career.
You can hear James’ voice in some of the more heinous quotes :(
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A former employee shitting on their employer during a scandal to draw media attention has been the oldest trick in the book. If more stories come forward or others corroborate the individual claims, it’s worth notice. Until then, all I see is someone who took a high pressure job, couldn’t hack it, and now they’re trying to cash in on the negative experience for media attention.
One party versions are always … tricky. If this was the case then people that support her need to step up and talk. It is hard to belive a company with such ethics also had good enough enviroment for a colleague to transition and publicly anounce it to the world. Something is off…
Exactly this ^
Until there’s actual evidence put forward (and not just her word), I’ll happily defer pulling out the guillotine and grabbing my pitch fork.
I get the community as a whole is rightfully shitty with how LMG has handled themselves over the last week, but I’m certainly not taking her accusations alone at face value, regardless of how abhorrent they are
Between this and Madison’s tweets I hope the good people can get out and the company dies.
I never saw Madison’s tweets, what happened there?
See: Madison on why she quit.
Oooh…
Big if true
Yeah. It’s like… not good. Even if her allegations are only partially true, it would be more than a bit damning.
…the company dies.
Oh for fucks sakes we have an edgel0rd over here. You can just stop watching the channel if you don’t like them.
An unethical company that allows it’s employees to be assaulted doesn’t need to exist.
There’s nothing wrong with hoping an unethical company goes under.
I don’t think they’re beyond redemption. My hope is that Linus can take a step back and let the CEO work on improving the workplace culture. No idea if he’s up to the challenge but time will tell
After digging into this whole fiasco and it’s various aspects, I’m coming to think that this is a leadership problem, pure and simple, and that the leader that allowed these pretty egregious situations to exist and metastasize is Linus. So sure, good for him for basically bootstrapping a company up to a ~$100M valuation… but that is absolutely not an excuse for, and in no way justifies the internal and external ethical lapses.
The best case here is if the new LMG CEO forces a sharp, top-down culture shift that enables more sustainable working practices, better employee treatment and culture, increased rigor in the data they present, and an explicit public acknowledgement that their previous high-handed interactions with some creators and brands - and ethical conflicts of interest with others - did, in fact, occur, and will be seriously investigated in the interest of not repeating those failures in the future. But given Linus’s continued “woe is me”/borderline gaslighting, I’ll believe change is coming when I actually see it. For now, I’ve unsubscribed.
he won’t see this, my guy
Well they made the smartest possible decision in letting us hear from the other humans at LMG. The last thing they needed was another smug non apology rant from Linus himself. These folks seem like actual humans, and they made some very frank admissions of error.
Of course, Linus has to come in at the end and minimize, deflect, and ultimately fail to show an ounce of real contrition, learning, and growth. I feel the most pity for him in this because he’s clearly trapped in his deficient little mind, unable to grow through a major challenge like this. He’s passed beyond his ability to just rant back, but he doesn’t have any other pages in his playbook. The best he can do is rely on the adults around him. I hope he does more of that.
He recognized that he was getting emotional again but didn’t recognize that it called for another take and maybe some more thought about it all before that take started.
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Wait, so people used to take this guy seriously? I watched a review he did on some sim racing gear a few years back and it was obvious the guy didn’t google even the most basic advice on how to set up a sim rig properly.
I knew he was full of shit, because hell talk about really complicated things like ram timing like he’s an expert, then when he tries to use Linux, a package manager is too complex for him and he becomes less tech savvy than my 75 year old mom, so its pretty obvious he knows nothing when he’s not being feed answers by some marketing goon
That Linux video was so frustrating
Indeed it was. That was the shark-jump moment for me, and I wasn’t even a part of the community.
This is so amusing to me, because I had no idea who this Linus was - I was only somewhat familiar with Linus Torvald of Linux fame. I looked up last night just to check that the old Linux nerd wasn’t running around stealing water coolers and such.
Extra funny to see a comment the next morning that this Linus knows zero about Linux.
For those who aren’t aware why errors are an issue because all they’ve seen is wacky LTT videos where they mess around with stuff–Linus is the most popular (and profitable) computer hardware Youtuber, and he’s always done hardware reviews, but to some degree this whole scandal came about because of him attempting to be taken more seriously. Recently he’s been using his millions in an attempt to become the most authoritative PC hardware critic by building and staffing a state-of-the-art testing lab. It was one of his lab technicians who made the comment about how their testing was better than that of more respected channels like Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed that kicked this whole thing off. And the whole lab thing makes the continuing inaccuracy of the videos seem that much more egregious.
Well yea, same with the old mechanical keyboard video, but their new Mechanical Keyboard video is pretty well researched.
There is no way to set up a sim rig properly. No matter what you do it would still barely feel nothing like real driving, nevermind racing.
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You could know absolutely everything about building computers and still know absolutely nothing about sim racing rigs. Knowing some domains doesn’t make you an expert at all domains. He could reach out to an expert for areas he’s not familiar with but he’s more concerned about clickbait and shitting out videos as quickly as possible.
And this is true for anyone whose business depends on the monetization of YT content. Imo.
Eeeh, I don’t know about that. He may have experience, but it never seemed to me like he had much understanding. Or even knew how to learn, like with the Linux stuff.
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Linus knows wtf he’s talking about
As a pedantic f*cking weirdo who goes WAY too deep into things until I’m satisfied that I understand them, he very much does not.
There is a difference between understanding technology and doing the homework before a video. You can be super smart/experienced, hut if you don’t care to learn about the thing you’re talking about it becomes a goof off very quickly. I’ve (and many others out there) have watched enough content to know when things are straying from legitimacy.
He has the technical competency of your average best buy employee. Not even geek squad, just like a normal employee. Just look at their channel, they constantly make videos about their mission critical servers breaking.
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I can empathize with that, but that is sorta the problem to me. He frames himself as an authority on a lot of these subjects, and then goes on to demonstrate a clear lack of understanding. Those who know better can take his bad advice as purely entertainment, but to those who don’t, he’s misleading consumers, and potentially changing their purchasing decisions as a result. You can be a tongue and cheek entertainer with a theme, or you can be a journalistic authority, but it is wildly irresponsible (in my opinion) to try to be both at the same time. Especially when he has a demonstrable track record of misleading consumers with his lack of understanding. Its not on any of his viewers or fans that they were mislead, it’s on him for making the waters murky with inadequate experience, biased reviewing, unclear context, and conflicts of interest.
Linus should have taken the $100 mill
After all that has come out…
Did the 100m exist?
LOL! This is the best comment I have read about this whole fiasco.
He got offered $100M?
Yeah, a couple of months ago there was an offer to buy LMG from him for a total of 100 mil. I believe it was 60% cash 40% stock in the acquiring company. They turned the offer down.
Linus always came off to me as one of those people who shouldn’t be mangement. Idk, just watching him in videos feels frustrating, and he seemed to belittle his employees in a joking/non-joking manner.
Some of the other “techs” do seem to be very knowledgeable, and i feel bad for them to have to work under a man child.
The behavior sets an example among the rest of the staff too, it appears.
Yeah, I saw that in several videos and it made me uncomfortable. He’d say rude things in a way that didn’t actually come across like he was joking. If it was just a friend thing, I could maybe understand it, but there was a big power imbalance. Can’t imagine what it’d be like to be on the receiving end of how he can act.
Did any one see the pinned comment where they say turned off monetization after community feedback? as if this video should be monitized in the first place lol man this does not feel right
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Fair point, I thought about that too but if it were me and my reputation on the line, I’d make a main point of the video. Just as gamer nexus did.
Making a vid about being less careless and then being careless.
All that said, when I was posting vids, there was a full screen YouTube made me go through to set monitization and ad placement before proceeding to a separate screen for posting
This video is odd to me. The thumbnail of the video is of Linus but you don’t see him in the video until almost the end. Even though technically Linus is no longer the CEO of the company the responsibility still falls on him because bulk of the controversy was created by his terrible response post on their forum. Also the tone of this video is very off putting. The awkward half joking “we’re human so feel bad for us” tone by whole bunch people other than Linus feels evasive. I think LMG is treating this as a PR problem but clearly it’s a serious systemic internal problem and I don’t see how the company culture can be changed when Linus is still very hands on. Maybe I’m being cynical here but it feels like they’ll just go back to business as usual after this blows over in a week.
Things are not looking good for linus, especially now that an ex-employee is making accusations about terrible working conditions, sexisim, and harassment of all types…
Too late. Don’t care.
I’ve already unsubscribed.You should care, it reaffirms all reasons to unsub.
same here. Unsubbed from all of their channels. Now I just watch the spectacle from a distance. LMG is dead to me.
PR damage control
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Call me a fanboy but this is not the worst response.
A few things that still annoy me ofc:
- Madison’s concerns were not addressed (she JUST wrote it, so fair enough, but that shit needs to be addressed)
- everything sounds a bit scripted. Shit, just let them say what concerns them and the specifics of what they actually wanna address. Like give examples, so we know that you guys get it.
- Linus blaming others sticks out. I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt and say he’s doing it unconsciously but it really bothers me and I hope it’s just truckloads of stress that he’ll be able to work through. This is not meant as an insult, but it sounds to me he should get a therapist to talk himself through the feelings. It helped me, and I can smell the pent up emotions through the screen.
It’s not perfect, but it’s a start. Let’s see what comes in response in the next while.
Also whoever hurt, degraded and ruined Madison’s mental health fuck you. I know it won’t happen, but if you read this Madison, what you went through was wrong and unfair and fuck everyone who hurt you, you did the right thing and now that you’re gone, life will improve. If you got through your worst nightmare, you will easily get through the next weeks.
