• empireOfLove@lemmy.one
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    Do we have a Shermanposting sublemmy yet?? cause I’m low on traitors tears and need to stock up

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    Seriously? This whole thread (and arguably the meme itself) misidentifying Ulysses S. Grant as William T Sherman? We can do better than this y’all.

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      Remember he thought the war was wasteful.

      Because…what white man would live in the swamps of the Seminole, and the US Army lacked clear goals.

      shrug

      Sherman, was pro union and anti confederacy. It was that simple—to own slaves, or not, was not his concern.

      There is no glory in war; Sherman’s own words say it often…the ACW was the waste of poor young American men, dying in fields because wealthy plantation owners would have it so.

      This was the unforgivable sin in Sherman’s eyes, to inflame the passions of our youth, to no end.

      Why glorify Sherman? He slept, rode, and ate, as his soldiers did. To know the capability of his army, he did not separate himself, unlike his peers.

      He suffered ill health, mental breakdowns, familial loss, often on the verge of quitting — and yet, saw it to the end, despite the death and senseless carnage.

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      Nah, the war against the south the crimes against humanity that was manifest destiny are two completely different things.

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    Okay all I know about this song is that it seems that it’s pro redneck and subtly racist with strong suggestions of “I’m a fraud of the big city because scary”. Also I hear the Iowa governor quoted it.

    Anything else I’m missing?

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      Jason’s also from Macon, GA. Population 150,000. Small town country boy my arse. To quote Shooter Jennings:

      I get home from a long day, put on the radio Lookin’ for some country soul, but I don’t find it, no It’s a dirt road free for all, some old boys sayin’ they’re outlaws, They dress the part and they talk the talk You know they’ve been taught to walk the walk These boys think they’re tough like they been robbin’ banks Cause they name drop Johnny Cash and they name drop poor old Hank

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        And Jason Aldean was onstage during a shooting at one of his concerts, and do you know what Mr. “Try That In a Small Town” Big Britches did? Ran offstage and hid. Which like, I don’t blame the guy, but don’t release a song cosplaying as some big tough guy that will stand up to bad gunmen when there is literally evidence that you won’t.

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        These are the kinds of guys who like their jeans like they like their women: bought distressed.

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        lol, I’m from a town of 9000 people, and in my state that still wasn’t a “small town”. We had a pizza joint! People drove to our town because we had a pizza joint. Douche has no idea what it’s like being in a small town.

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            You had a walmart? Damn look at you and your fancy high falootin’ society over here.

            And no, no one ever got in fights in my town, there was a lot of tough toxic masculinity brovado, but everyone was too afraid to get in fights. No the real thing is what I alluded to, small towns like to say they’re nice but really everyone is gossiping behind everyone’s back because there’s nothing else to talk about.

            Did you hear so and so’s husband was at the store alone the other day? They’re going to be divorced in a week, guar-an-tee.

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        So weird, I don’t feel owned…

        I remember living in a small town and being on the outside of the “community” he so proudly boasts about. Small towns aren’t “communities”, they’re gossipy high schoolers that never left. I remember going to church and having “friendly” church people openly make slights about my family because we were poor. I remember people say hello to you on the street and then immediately turn to their friend and say “Did you hear about ____ and what happened?”

        Nah, screw all of that. Big cities no one knows you and you can be you without being ostrasized just for going outside. I don’t have neighborhood karens asking me what I’m doing in their neighborhood.

        I have never been carjacked or mugged, but I have been pushed out of small town cul-de-acs because I had police called on me and my friends for being “up to no good”. So yeah, keep your small town “communities”, I’m much happier being outside of them.

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          I grew up outside Chicago and hate big cities and the endless urban sprawl, moved to a tiny town in Wisconsin with less than 7k people and had similar experiences as you described. Currently living in a nice big/small town of about 50k and loving it. It’s big enough that most people don’t know me or my business, but small enough it still has that small town vibe to it. As an added bonus I’m only an hour or two away from large cities, so not an unreasonable drive if there’s something fun happening that I want to attend… I’ll probably live here for the rest of my life.

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            That’s very fair reasoning. Thanks for understanding why I hate small towns, people think I just hate the tininess of it (and I do, I hate driving 30 minutes to get a pizza), but it’s really how clique-y it gets. I like being able to choose who knows me and never see those I don’t want to know again

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      Nobody’s mentioned it yet so I have to bring up the music video. It removes all the subtitles of the racism. It flashes back and forth between carefully chosen snipits of BLM protests - sometimes as they desolve into riots, sometimes as the police get violent - and scenes of the band playing in front of a court house where a famous lynching happened.

      I don’t think they thought too much about the lynching, but I find it hard to believe that in a song so intentionally racially charged nobody glanced at the Wikipedia page for their filming location and thought twice about it.

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        Wow. That’s uh, really subtle. I haven’t watched it, definitely not going to now.

        I remember in my small town they all claimed to be open minded and welcoming. Oh yeah we love black people! We even had one in our school of 400 students! Of course I was young and naiive, looking back, there was a ton of racism around every corner. If any black person showed up in town everyone would know about it. It wasn’t “the family down the street” it was “The hispanics down the street” - or worse. It’s hard realizing that just because no one is telling you that you’re racist, or everyone around you says you aren’t, it doesn’t mean anything.

        Shame on him for inciting more violence and stirring up more fear and resentment in people.

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    I’m in a town of 3600… People are super fucking poor and still work their asses off. None of them would give a fuck if you “try that” or w/e the fuck that guy is on about… They’d go on about their business because they are just surviving. They’d sure as fuck not give a shit about any sorta of vigilante justice. They’d say “that’s definitely not my problem”

    Pretty sure this dude is pandering to wannabees who probably have never actually spent any time in a small town in the US.

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      Pretty sure this dude is pandering to wannabees

      Ageing suburban boomers who think they still look cool on a Harley and spend the days in the garage avoiding the wife and working on their COPD and cirrhosis while listening to AM hate radio giving the stink eye to the kids walking by playing their vidja games and whatnot. They’re the ones who think they’re “small town” because their 401k bought them a McMansion in the woods 20 miles out from the city core.