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    Caffeine, people think they aren’t addicted to caffeine and can stop any time but watch them be miserable and go right back when they try. And in the same vein adderall for those college kids who are cramming before tests

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      I have adhd. Caffeine I definitely feel the symptoms when I stop. My adhd drug (Focalin, not aderall) I just feel the ADHD symptoms more but no headaches and such.

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          Headaches?! Yes, the first evening, after that, nothing. No flu like symptoms, no nothing. It’s just a habit for me but doesn’t fuck me up if I don’t do it.

          I’ll happiely drink 4-6 red bull a day and another 1-4 coffee on top, but I don’t care if there is none.

          Weeks of headaches? Flu like symptoms? You guys sure you don’t just have a placebo effect when quitting?

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            I began to say that there is no way you drink 4 to 6 Red Bull energy drinks and then top it with 1 to 4 coffee drinks on top.

            Doing the math at the smallest amount (4 8-oz cans of Red Bull @ 80 mg of caffeine each puts you at 320 mg of caffeine. That is only a bit more than 1 Rockstar (300 mg).

            If you really take in that much caffeine, then I would believe that you likely haven’t abstained from caffeine for long enough.

            Give it a try. Go caffeine-free for 1 weekend. I dare you. Stop taking in caffeine of any sort on Friday afternoon. You will likely call in sick to whatever you have planned on Monday.

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              I did it last year for a week. As I said, first day I git a headache in the evening but that was it.

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            I’m calling bullshit that you get minimal effects going from regular (the most important part is regular) over 400mg (and upwards of 1000mg) caffeine in a day to zero.

            Unless you’re just a natural freak who doesn’t become dependent on stimulants, you absolutely should feel like crap for at least a day or two.

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              Nope, no freak here, I got other substances that I can’t quit as easily but coffee wasn’t a problem at all.

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                Congratulations on your resistance to chemical addiction then. I still seriously doubt your claims though.

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            Lol, why and how would it be a placebo effect if it’s an addiction that nobody realizes they have? You either don’t understand what thread you’re in or what a placebo effect is.

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              placebo effect works in both directions. i just wanted to share my experience, that i don’t suffer any side effects aside of some headaches. i wonder how many people feel bad because they believe they have too

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      I’ve had to quit temporarily due to an injury and while it does suck at first, it’s not as hard as something like nicotine. Doable if you have the motivation to quit but I eventually went back to drinking a few cups a day because the pros outweigh the cons for me.

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      I drink several cups a day but even if I don’t I still feel the same. I’m not one of those “don’t talk to me before I’ve had my coffee” -guys. I just drink it out of habit and because I like the taste. I don’t feel like it effects me in almost any way. I can even drink a cup few hours before sleep. I guess you could say it’s an addiction since I do it every day and don’t want to stop but I’d still rather just consider it a habit in my case.

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        I had that as well. Didn’t feel any real benefits/effects from it and also no abstinence symptoms but drank coffee occasionally because of taste.

        Then my high blood pressure was discovered, I was put on medication and since then I feel the rush of caffeine and unfortunately the headache after withdrawal as well.

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        @Thorny_Thicket @qooqie
        I could be wrong but this sounds surprisingly like the “I don’t actually need it, I can quit at any time, I just don’t want to” trope.
        Just put of curiosity if you switched to decaff for a month or something would you notice or feel any difference?

        I’m not a coffee drinker so I don’t really know what it’s like. (I’ll do tea every now and again but nothing daily or multiple times a day)

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          I have the same coffee drinking habits, and someone challenged me to give it up for a week to prove I’m not addicted. I didn’t have any symptoms but I was surprised to find I genuinely craved a hot drink several times a day. Hot water with lemon filled the gap until the week was over.

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          In my case I simply don’t see the need to quit. I don’t see it having a negative effect on my life and I don’t believe it to be particulary unhealthy either.

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      I tried cutting it out for a while to see if it was causing some anxiety (it wasn’t, it was just the world and lockdowns) but went from 2-3 large cups of chemex a day to 0 for about 8 weeks and it was frankly…. fine? I didn’t even get headaches. I count myself lucky, esp so since I am back to drinking coffee haha

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        Same for me. Had to quit cold turkey because of gastritis and later an operation and it was fine. Headache for a day and obviously the ritual of morning coffee was gone, but that’s it.

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          The odd thing is I didn’t even have headache first day, though I have experienced that another time (like when travelling and not having coffee). But this time I was having no caffeine (no tea, soda, etc either) and I did t experience any change. It gave me quite a surprise

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      Oh man. I get to experience all the addict tropes with caffeine. Slurping spilled coffee from the kitchen counter (less hygienic than vodka), panic-crying when were out of beans, snarling at my love ones until they take me to Peets or Starbucks.

      Every once in a while (like every 18 months) I’ll taper back down to sobriety (16 oz a day for two days, then 8 ozs then 4 or zero) and wow there’s a level of giving zero fucks even below the iceberg. Maybe it’s negative fucks or microfractional fuck-giving. But when I’m drying out, no goth, no cynic, no edge lord can stand a chance matching the degree of fuck non-giving I manage.

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      I need to, ironically, pick up some caffeine pills so I can quit. Last time I quit I waited until I started feeling like shit then took part of a caffeine pill, since I couldn’t find smaller ones. Only had to take the one dose and I was good.

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    Algorithmic Addiction from Social Media consumption. An analogy would be Caffeine addiction from coffee consumption.

    Most people who use smartphones are addicts and are far from being aware of it.

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      Yeah I’m feeling that. I thought I had kicked up, but Lemmy is getting too good lately…

      And Lemmy isn’t even intentionally employing dark patterns to drive up my engagement.

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        I don’t know if you are using the web UI or an app, but I found that if you use a mobile app it gets even more addictive. I had to delete Connect from my phone because it made it easier to just sit and scroll. Now I’m doing that on the web anyway, argh…

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        I haven’t yet become addicted to Lemmy. Still relapsing from a decade of Reddit. I barely remember how to live without it.

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    I’m surprised not to see “Weed” here.

    I don’t smoke anymore, cuz awesome anxiety. But I was hella addicted when I was younger. I’ve got a few friends who HAVE to smoke every day, or when they go out, or when they play video games, or when they wake up…

    It’s not physically addictive, but damn can it ever be mentally.

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      Never tried weed myself, so I can’t speak from experience. However, I’ve heard all sorts of things about it. Some people say it isn’t addictive. Some say it’s totally harmless. Some say it’s not as bad as beer, but it does have some downsides. And then there are people who say they’ve decided to quit because of some negative effects it has. Who should I believe?

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        My take: If you are at a low point in life, have a mental disorder or are depressed, your chances of getting addicted over time is greatly increased and you probably shouldn’t consume without medical supervision (even then, THC-less weed might be better for you). It’s really hard to get out of the habit once smoking weed slowly becomes the only thing that can give you joy/relaxation, and your mental situation worsens long-term.

        In most other cases your risks are very small and you definitely should try it sometime. Every person reacts a little differently, hence the many opinions out there. I say just try it, see how it makes you feel and if you decide to consume regularly, try to be mindful of any negative habitual/bodily changes that long-term use may cause.

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        Its not particularly dangerous when compared to alcohol, but its definitely not harmless. It isn’t addictive in the sense that it causes a chemical dependency, but its very easy to over rely on because its simply a cheap easy way to feel good. There was a period in my life where I would say I was addicted to it. Any other pleasure in my life wasn’t relevant unless I was combining it with marijuana, and despite what I believed at the time it didn’t make me creative or productive. I was a walking stereotype of a lazy stoner. I only quit because I was forced to after losing my job for a surprisingly unrelated reason. I felt like garbage for days on end after stopping and only then did I realize it was a problem. At this point I have a much healthier relationship with the drug, I usually only partake in social situations with some rare exceptions. How bad the drug is really just depends on who’s using it and how they’re using it.

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        I’d say you should take what people tell you at face value unless they’re a close friend. There was a commenter here who said they had to stop reading book because it was addictive to them. Anything can mess up someone’s day. Weed makes some people not feel okay. It makes some people want to smoke it (or eat gummies or whatever) way too often. Plenty of other people have totally fine relationships with it.

        Unless you really have a view into someone’s life I wouldn’t worry about trying to decide if they’re lying and if something like an intervention is necessary.

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      Pot makes it easy to tolerate boredom, and as a result be boring.

      I suppose one could say this about most drugs.

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      I keep trying edibles from time to time and I just don’t get it. It just feels like I took a sleeping pill. I don’t generally have problems falling asleep so this is undesirable. I don’t feel any fun effects with it like I do with alcohol.

      Is that just how some people respond to weed??? I don’t get why people enjoy it. Maybe smoking it is different?

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    With so many states (US) legalizing weed, people are quickly forgetting that yes, pot is a drug and yes, it is addivitve.

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      I’ve always referred to Reddit and other forum type sites as “anti-social media”.

      Nobody’s here to gain clout. Nobody’s here to get more followers. Nobody’s here to try and be famous.

      We’re here because it’s anonymous (if you want it to be), and because it’s fundamentally different from mainstream social networking sites.

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        Definitely agree with you on how Reddit and forums are different, but they can still be pretty addictive. I just love reading discussions about stuff, and it really scratches an itch that is not satisfied by social media that is centered around personalities. I hate all the self promotion on sites like Twitter and Instagram anyway, as despite there being a lot of cool stuff, there are so many “influencers” and grifters out there it’s honestly a massive turnoff to use the sites.

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        Add in that you can just check how the algorithm that sorts your posts works. Social media like Facebook have always felt like 100% ads with how content is sorted. If not for anotherproduct, an ad for Facebook itself.

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      It’s different, in my opinion. You’re not trying to expose yourself, you’re not gonna change yourself so the others can think you’re something you’re not.

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    An interesting book can put me in a similar situations to drug addiction. My wife had to put her foot down on my reading issues, and now I avoid books unless necessary. People are always confused when I explain it to them.

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      Omg finally another person! Sometimes I just can’t stop reading and I’ll stay up all night reading. During some specific sequences when I am reading a new book I experience euphoria. At one point I needed to stop myself from buying more books because it can get expensive when you are buying a new book every couple of days. One thing that helped, at least with the money issue, was discovering free web serials. Few are literary masterpieces, but there is enough to read that I can get my fix.

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      Surprised I had to scroll dowm this far to see “porn”, should be the top one lol

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    Music.

    Some people won’t drive without it. Or can’t study, etc.

    Obviously not a harmful addiction, or even undesirable in most cases - but generally unacknowledged.

    I like most music, but it doesn’t occur to me to go out of my way to play it for myself.

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      I have ADHD, so music helps me maintain focus when I’m (usually) unmedicated. That being said, I do have a very strong media dependency, so I get where you’re coming from.

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      Omg finally someone like me. I only Listen to music when it’s already playing or someone gives me an earworm or something like that. But usually i just don’t open spotify unprompted.

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    Following sports. Being a die hard sports fan is time consuming and stressful. Obviously betting on sports is an addiction people talk about now, but even tipping comps and fantasy football type leagues are things that rob you of time and energy.