• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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      Nobody panic!

      The only people that matter, who also happen to be the ones that caused and continue to exacerbate the climate apocalypse knowingly for private profit, have built luxury bunker complexes in temperate places like New Zealand to shield themselves from the consequences of their own actions.

      No one important is in danger, just us billions of disposable capital batteries, no biggie.

      Now get back to work! The owners/Pharoahs/oligarchs/beloved job creators have quarterly ego score expectations to exploit out of you before you die of heat stroke as a result of your bad decisions, like being poor!

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        New Zealand won’t be exempt from climate change and they have to come out of their bunkers at some point. I always ask myself what good their money will be when global trade collapses. How long until their security guards realize that they hold the real power?

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          It’s already happening, North Island has been flooding so much this year it’s barely newsworthy anymore. And yet people think voting in the rightwing “we need to be fiscally conservative but also we will spend billions on roads” party is a good idea.

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          I hate to break this to you, but these have to go hand in hand.

          Government, and the individuals who make up the government, are balancing a lot of competing demands.

          Until one of those demands may include the loss of use of their property, at the very least, then they will always be more incentived to overvalue the perspective of the rich. And the rich will literally say, yeah, it’s bad, but we can slap a bandaid on it - 20% or the cost for 40% of the solution, that should get us by!

          Some other overwhelming force will eventually be necessary to change the calculus of what an “acceptable solution” looks like. Because with your market regulation, you will always have people willing to pay the fine instead of following the rules, and if they are allowed to continue externalizing those costs to the rest of us, we will continue to have less room to request less benefit, and we will have to take what they decide to give us. Which I can almost guarantee will be pennies compared to what it costs us in the meantime.

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          This is literally idealism.

          You have an idea about a market solution to the problem, and then act like you’ve solved the problem.

          The problem isn’t a lack of ideas! The problem is a lack of implementation! You have to get these ideas into the real world somehow, and revolution is the only way you can do that. There are billionaires aligned against implementing these ideas. You have to stop them.

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            It’s not idealism. If you have a better solution that is not radical by design, go ahead. I was literally not specific intentionally. Go ahead, what instrument within the current system would work that are not regulations?

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              Regulations don’t work when they don’t get implemented, which means your ideas are purely ideas and not materialistic solutions. There aren’t going to be any regulations, don’t you get it? That ship has so obviously sailed.

              There isn’t a better solution that’s not radical and that’s why radical solutions all that’s left!

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      The hottest 36 days on record. Also the coolest summer we can expect to see for the rest of our lives.

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    So that’s why all the conservatives are laughing and cheering. I was wondering why they were celebrating. They are accomplishing their mission of killing us all.

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      Don’t worry, they’re gearing up for the “Climate change is real, but we just need to genocide more of the people with a <100kg/yr carbon footprint to fix it” chapter of dogshit rhetoric soon.

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        They’ll never say that in good faith because it’s the rich that have the biggest carbon footprints.

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          My point is they’ll (continue to) blame the people whose carbon footprints are <1% of theirs and would be manageable for centuries and advocate for genocide as a solution.

          Currently blaming the global south is just used to deflect.

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    Fun fact: All this probably happened because we stopped to geoengineer by outlawing ships blowing sulphur into the air which created additional cloud cover. That is, this year isn’t really exceptional climate-change wise, it’s just that we could witness, by fortuitous natural experiment, how much worse it actually already is… as well as that we can limit the impact by geoengineering. It works, and without wrecking havoc on the overall system.

    And the good news is that we don’t need to blow sulphur into the air to generate clouds, the same effect can be had by blowing salt water into the air, just strap a couple of water cannons to every cargo ship. No I’m dead serious.

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      All this probably happened because we stopped to geoengineer by outlawing ships blowing sulphur into the air which created additional cloud cover.

      You have your causality running backwards… this was already here, and the sulfur was masking it. This happened because we put so many GHG in the air.

      It works, and without wrecking havoc on the overall system.

      Europe is the one that initiated the sulfur reductions. With the additional dimming data now available, they reviewed it to determine how much damage had been caused. The conclusion? The benefits of reducing sulfur actually outweigh the damage of unmasked warming. The plan for further reductions was upheld.

      If we mask radiative forcing, we don’t want to be doing it with sulfur. That leads to acid rain, ocean acidification, and asthma and other diseases. CaCO3 is a candidate. The long-term consequences of any candidate is unknown. Except that we know that the less sulfur raining down on us and the fish in general, the better.

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        You have your causality running backwards… this was already here, and the sulfur was masking it.

        Which is what I said?

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          It was probably framing it like

          Fun fact: All this probably happened because we stopped to geoengineer by outlawing ships blowing sulphur into the air which created additional cloud cover.

          Instead of something like “we noticed the effects of climate change exceptionally this year because we stopped blowing sulphur (…)”. Yes, this is probably pedantic in a room where everyone understands anthropocentric climate change. Still, I can understand why some people might want to be extremely clear with how we use language regarding this topic, given… Everything that’s going on.

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    What the Fossil Fuel Industry Doesn’t Want You To Know | Al Gore | TED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZC6da4mco

    Oil barrons merely see global warming as yet another catastrophe to take advantage of for power and profit, they will have their companies pump oil til there’s not a single drop left to pump anywhere, using every excuse they can find to keep pumping and polluting while evading taxes and regulation as much as possible. They are evil scum and belong in jail for their lies and behavior.

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    It is totally terrifying but also very strange to read about the record heat everywhere while we here in Germany had probably the coldest July in a decade. We had 16C where we should have had 30C. And we had rain, a lot of rain.

    Still, I’m terrified.

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    Couldn’t the massive fires (energy and compounds generated) exacerbate these values?

    Don’t make me say what I didn’t say.

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      No actually fires have an overall negative (lowering) effect on temperatures, because the smoke reduces the sun energy from reaching land over large areas, it’s been well established that areas affected by smoke will have lower peak temps than they otherwise would have. Except it can cause temps to stay higher overnight by preventing the heat from escaping into atmosphere.

      But in terms of highest temps ever recorded… it doesn’t seem fires would contribute to that at all, more just a consequence of the high temps (drying effect).

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        Thank you, but I was talking about heat generated by the fires and compound build-up (eg: co2), while the last one might bring its effects later.

        Just to be sure, I talk about these figures, not the global climate deregulation.

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        ‘Don’ t look up’ it’s a depressing documentary dressed up as a dark comedy focusing on the incapacity of competence to sway the tide of general ignorance.

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      Next species would make plushies after us, like we did with dinosaurs. Cute little featherless bipeds. 2990-3000s would also see a cartoon where humans would sing about friendship, turning some kids into human-geeks.

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    Phoenix just broke its record for consecutive days over 110° at 31, previous record was half that…

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      Cincinnati only had two days over 90 total all summer so far. I think we may get another day this week. Phoenix is getting all of our heat.

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    43 ºC in my town today. Now we are at 32 ºC and is 23:00.

    This is hell.