• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Nobody panic!

    The only people that matter, who also happen to be the ones that caused and continue to exacerbate the climate apocalypse knowingly for private profit, have built luxury bunker complexes in temperate places like New Zealand to shield themselves from the consequences of their own actions.

    No one important is in danger, just us billions of disposable capital batteries, no biggie.

    Now get back to work! The owners/Pharoahs/oligarchs/beloved job creators have quarterly ego score expectations to exploit out of you before you die of heat stroke as a result of your bad decisions, like being poor!

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      New Zealand won’t be exempt from climate change and they have to come out of their bunkers at some point. I always ask myself what good their money will be when global trade collapses. How long until their security guards realize that they hold the real power?

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        It’s already happening, North Island has been flooding so much this year it’s barely newsworthy anymore. And yet people think voting in the rightwing “we need to be fiscally conservative but also we will spend billions on roads” party is a good idea.

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        I hate to break this to you, but these have to go hand in hand.

        Government, and the individuals who make up the government, are balancing a lot of competing demands.

        Until one of those demands may include the loss of use of their property, at the very least, then they will always be more incentived to overvalue the perspective of the rich. And the rich will literally say, yeah, it’s bad, but we can slap a bandaid on it - 20% or the cost for 40% of the solution, that should get us by!

        Some other overwhelming force will eventually be necessary to change the calculus of what an “acceptable solution” looks like. Because with your market regulation, you will always have people willing to pay the fine instead of following the rules, and if they are allowed to continue externalizing those costs to the rest of us, we will continue to have less room to request less benefit, and we will have to take what they decide to give us. Which I can almost guarantee will be pennies compared to what it costs us in the meantime.

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        This is literally idealism.

        You have an idea about a market solution to the problem, and then act like you’ve solved the problem.

        The problem isn’t a lack of ideas! The problem is a lack of implementation! You have to get these ideas into the real world somehow, and revolution is the only way you can do that. There are billionaires aligned against implementing these ideas. You have to stop them.

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          It’s not idealism. If you have a better solution that is not radical by design, go ahead. I was literally not specific intentionally. Go ahead, what instrument within the current system would work that are not regulations?

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            Regulations don’t work when they don’t get implemented, which means your ideas are purely ideas and not materialistic solutions. There aren’t going to be any regulations, don’t you get it? That ship has so obviously sailed.

            There isn’t a better solution that’s not radical and that’s why radical solutions all that’s left!