I mean I have to agree that it’s disgusting and pathetic that almost every western mainstream political party is complicit and the rest are silent at best.

But, if you can stand me saying it, I think we actually have a chance to change the party. A Dem ticket like this is a once in lifetime event. If they lose I would be surprised if I ever see one this good again in my lifetime. If they get in, and if they get in with a strong majority, I can see it fundamentally changing the party. Every dem who blames the left for losing elections will turn to dust instantaneously ( don’t fact check me on this ).

I don’t really know what effect it’ll have because I’m just some guy. But I think this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. I think it could fundamentally change the DNC. It could disempower the right of the party and bring leftist ideas into the political mainstream. It won’t be perfect, but it could be something. It could be huge.

Why not?

Kamala and Walz are more left-leaning than any dem ticket in ages. If the purpose of the Green party is to move the democrats left, then they should drop out to reward them for moving left.

My bad, it was Turkey, not Hungary.

The really funny thing here is that Elon’s Twitter has openly complied with censorship orders from Hungary already. The free speech stuff is fake. Twitter does overt political censorship on request.

It’s honestly a travesty what’s happened to Reddit. If I want to search for a forum topic or something where random people give their honest opinions, Reddit was about the only place left on the internet and now that’s gone too.

Same.

‘no empathy’ people are wrong about cons. They have empathy but it is selectively turned off for certain groups because they have been conditioned to be afraid or disgusted by them. This isn’t an excuse but it is normal behavior - a lot of lefties don’t give a damn about the wellbeing of cops either. It’s not the same thing but it IS the same mechanism. Fear and hate stops people from feeling empathy. It’s human psychology and the cornerstone of all right-wing rhetoric.

I believe that by learning to undermine that kind of hateful rhetoric we can kill the soul of the anti-trans movement.

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I think you’re remembering it wrong and comparing different groups of people.

Man could have been hit by a meteorite and they’d say the same thing.

The polls I see put it at about 50-50 ( from Fivethirtyeight.com ).

Your summary is wrong. They put out an opinion piece arguing that the DNC underestimates the threat from the GOP. I agree, they’re running a pathetically weak campaign against someone who will probably end democracy and might have them all killed.

The person you’re talking to is unlikely to be pursuaded but there’s usually silent, invisible lurkers who can be.

I know I’ve changed my mind on things because of arguments I’ve read on the internet.

It is proven that people do double down on their views when confronted with opposing evidence, but IMO this is more about the psychology of trust and confrontation between individuals, rather than proof of the futility of argument as a concept. Hell, Vsauce made a video called ‘The Future of Reasoning’, where he makes the case that argument might have been selected for as an essential part of human psychology and necessary for our survivial.

The trick is to argue with the voices in your own head and simply project them on to other people’s comments.

Political apathy.

I disagree, both the left and the right have gained ground at the expense of the centre. Labour may have won a supermajority but they did so with fewer votes than in 2019 when they lost to the Conservatives.

The biggest reason they did so well this time around was because the Conservative vote was split by the far right Reform party. Reform won barely any seats but they had the third highest turnout of any party.

Incredibly good news. They’re ahead of both the far right and the centrists.

Yeah and Hitler injected human shit into himself, so what? Where does this sense of confidence come from? He said he’d kill people and now he’s legally allowed to do it.

Actually History isn’t always written by the victors. After WW2 a load of german officers fled to south America and began writing books about how great they were and could have won if only they had finished developing all their wonder weapons in time. This is the origin of a lot of persistent and false memes about how advanced and brilliant the nazis supposedly were. It’s history written by losers.

True! There needs to be logic, rhetoric and media training taught in schools, and media orgs should be removed from the control of wealthy individuals.